nuTrek will reimagine TOS episodes in ongoing comic...

[BillJ]

Which pertains to the movies, not the comics, of course. For those who want both new stories and a few remakes of stories, that's what this comic is for it seems.

We honestly have no idea what the ratio will be. I can't imagine Where No Man Has Gone Before coming in at less than three issues (the movie adaptation was six) and still be satisfying. There aren't too many other episodes that I can see coming in under two issues. So if they "re-tell" 3 TOS episodes in the first year, it'll eat up at least seven issues and as many as nine.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Which pertains to the movies, not the comics, of course. For those who want both new stories and a few remakes of stories, that's what this comic is for it seems.

We honestly have no idea what the ratio will be. I can't imagine Where No Man Has Gone Before coming in at less than three issues (the movie adaptation was six) and still be satisfying. There aren't too many other episodes that I can see coming in under two issues. So if they "re-tell" 3 TOS episodes in the first year, it'll eat up at least seven issues and as many as nine.

There's no reason to assume that at all. They could do such stories in as little as two issues--especially if they're not trying to stretch such two-issue stories into six for a trade release. Additionally, there's no reason to assume every story will be remake or that the remakes will be done back to back.

 

[BillJ]

Which pertains to the movies, not the comics, of course. For those who want both new stories and a few remakes of stories, that's what this comic is for it seems.

We honestly have no idea what the ratio will be. I can't imagine Where No Man Has Gone Before coming in at less than three issues (the movie adaptation was six) and still be satisfying. There aren't too many other episodes that I can see coming in under two issues. So if they "re-tell" 3 TOS episodes in the first year, it'll eat up at least seven issues and as many as nine.

There's no reason to assume that at all. They could do such stories in as little as two issues--especially if they're not trying to stretch such two-issue stories into six for a trade release. Additionally, there's no reason to assume every story will be remake or that the remakes will be done back to back.

There is no way that Where No Man Has Gone Before comes in at under three issues unless they cut the heart of the story out, the evolution of Mitchell. Sure they could do the Enterprise hits the barrier, Mitchell becomes a superstar and then Kirk gives him a flying kick to the Adam's apple in one issue. But if they do it in a half-ass fashion, they'll bleed readers so quickly it'll be cancelled after six issues.

In universe, their about eight years too early to be doing these types of stories... it really strains credibility that the TOS gang are going to encounter everything they encountered before eight years earlier. I think it's creatively lazy.

They should've allowed these characters to grow in new situations and not given this poor writer the chore of having his work constantly compared to a show from forty years ago. YMMV.

 

[MvRojo]

It seems from the initial description of the series from IDW, it will be first and foremost about re-doing episodes, that there will be more adapted stories than original stories.

The new Star Trek comic book series will "explore the vast implications of the alternate timeline created by the film in a new, monthly, ongoing comics series."
...
The new ongoing "Star Trek" comic series promises to continue the adventures of the new USS Enterprise with the new crew as they "embark on missions that re-imagine the stories from the original television series, along with new threats and characters never seen before."

 

[Harvey]

If they could tell the new movie (127 min.) in six issues they can probably tell old episodes (50 min.) in two.

It seems from the initial description of the series from IDW, it will be first and foremost about re-doing episodes, that there will be more adapted stories than original stories.

The new Star Trek comic book series will "explore the vast implications of the alternate timeline created by the film in a new, monthly, ongoing comics series."
...
The new ongoing "Star Trek" comic series promises to continue the adventures of the new USS Enterprise with the new crew as they "embark on missions that re-imagine the stories from the original television series, along with new threats and characters never seen before."

One doesn't seem to be emphasized over the other to me, at least in the quotes you've provided.

 

[BillJ]

It seems from the initial description of the series from IDW, it will be first and foremost about re-doing episodes, that there will be more adapted stories than original stories.

The new Star Trek comic book series will "explore the vast implications of the alternate timeline created by the film in a new, monthly, ongoing comics series."
...
The new ongoing "Star Trek" comic series promises to continue the adventures of the new USS Enterprise with the new crew as they "embark on missions that re-imagine the stories from the original television series, along with new threats and characters never seen before."

An interesting question: are the writers and the estates going to get credit and payment for situations and characters they created? They're not lifting elements for new stories but rewriting already published (filmed) work.

 

[C.E. Evans]

We honestly have no idea what the ratio will be. I can't imagine Where No Man Has Gone Before coming in at less than three issues (the movie adaptation was six) and still be satisfying. There aren't too many other episodes that I can see coming in under two issues. So if they "re-tell" 3 TOS episodes in the first year, it'll eat up at least seven issues and as many as nine.

There's no reason to assume that at all. They could do such stories in as little as two issues--especially if they're not trying to stretch such two-issue stories into six for a trade release. Additionally, there's no reason to assume every story will be remake or that the remakes will be done back to back.

There is no way that Where No Man Has Gone Before comes in at under three issues...

Sure, they can. They were able to do an adaptation of The Wrath Of Khan in three issues--and that was quite a bit longer than Where No Man Has Gone Before, IIRC.

...unless they cut the heart of the story out, the evolution of Mitchell. Sure they could do the Enterprise hits the barrier, Mitchell becomes a superstar and then Kirk gives him a flying kick to the Adam's apple in one issue.

It really could be told in just one issue and still manage to show Mitchell's evolution (if they even go that route with him). I know we live in the age of decompressed storytelling in comics--the stretching of a story that could be told in fewer issues by decreasing the amount of dialogue and increasing the size of the art on each page--but there's nothing in Where No Man Has Gone Before that really requires it to be more than two issues.

That's just worst-case scenario stuff.

 

[1bulma1]

why can't we just wait till the first issue comes out. I

remember when Buffy ended on TV and moved to comics,

fans of the show had doubts about Buffy been a comic book

girl .....surprisingly the Buffy comics were decent. NuTrek

may be as lucky as Buffy.

 

[MvRojo]

why can't we just wait till the first issue comes out. I

remember when Buffy ended on TV and moved to comics,

fans of the show had doubts about Buffy been a comic book

girl .....surprisingly the Buffy comics were decent. NuTrek

may be as lucky as Buffy.

Buffy and Angel comics were very different. They are part of the canon, the first volume of Buffy being Season 8, and the first volume of Angel being Season 6. They're continuing that with the new volumes being Seasons 9 and 7, respectively.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Whether the comics are consdered canon or not (the Trek ones aren't) has nothing whatsoever to do with their quality.

 

[indianatrekker26]

why can't we just wait till the first issue comes out. I

remember when Buffy ended on TV and moved to comics,

fans of the show had doubts about Buffy been a comic book

girl .....surprisingly the Buffy comics were decent. NuTrek

may be as lucky as Buffy.

Because so many people can't help to jump the gun, and condemn anything before giving it a chance anymore.

 

[MvRojo]

why can't we just wait till the first issue comes out. I

remember when Buffy ended on TV and moved to comics,

fans of the show had doubts about Buffy been a comic book

girl .....surprisingly the Buffy comics were decent. NuTrek

may be as lucky as Buffy.

Because so many people can't help to jump the gun, and condemn anything before giving it a chance anymore.

I'm not condemning anything. I want to get these no matter what, but I do have a preference as to what I'm hoping it will be. Everyone can have their own preference and opinion.

It's like how they announced Trek XI would involve the TOS crew from their beginnings. That's pretty much all that was said at the early stages, but it was enough to start up debate or speculation or opinion. Here, we similarly got a tiny synopsis saying their re-imagining old episodes.

 

[BillJ]

I'm not condemning anything. I want to get these no matter what, but I do have a preference as to what I'm hoping it will be. Everyone can have their own preference and opinion.

 

[Kelso]

I wonder if this means that the next movie will be jumping ahead a few years. I mean, they wouldn't want to tell stories that take place after the yet-to-be-released movie, would they?

 

[Yminale]

Wait a minute. I thought the whole idea of the separate time lines was to protect the original series. So they plan to overwrite the original timeline after all.

 

[Devon]

Wait a minute. I thought the whole idea of the separate time lines was to protect the original series. So they plan to overwrite the original timeline after all.

No. This is only a comic book interpretation of what those events would be like in the new timeline. Nothing is being overwritten.

 

[Pauln6]

Wait a minute. I thought the whole idea of the separate time lines was to protect the original series. So they plan to overwrite the original timeline after all.

No. This is only a comic book interpretation of what those events would be like in the new timeline. Nothing is being overwritten.

The two elements to the story are 1) the plot i.e. the situation in which the characters are placed and 2) the characters i.e. how they react in the situation and the consequences of those actions.

So the writers are taking the basic plots of the episodes and imagining how the Nu-characters with their different NuTrek experiences will affect the situation. It's a great idea and I susoect that they will be conscious of repeating the old stories too closely. In fact, they are probably aware that there is a lot of stock in encouraging the nerds to spot the difference!

Audiences are more experienced and more sophisticated than in the sixties; this sci fi stuff isn't new to us any more. They are not contrained by special effects budgets or hours for actors in the make-up chair, and the audience (particularly a comic book audience) is capable of handling ongoing plots and recurring villains. There is a lot of potential to turn this into a very interesting franchise if they can connect with an audience. I'm just hoping that they don't rush the stories too much. I'm not a fan one issue stories. Even the TWoK adaption seemed rushed to me, probably because I was hoping for a bit more of the background material to be included.

Btw - they have confirmed that they will be moving the timeline forward a bit in the sequel so that the crew has some experience but hasn't fully gelled yet.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I wonder if this means that the next movie will be jumping ahead a few years. I mean, they wouldn't want to tell stories that take place after the yet-to-be-released movie, would they?

According to this LA Times piece, the crew will have a few adventures under their belts by the next film.

 

[bryce]

I'm curious if/how they're gonna handle time travel stories. Because technically, if the TOS/STXI histories diverged on Kirk's birthday in 2233, and nuKirk and co. go back to the same time periods as TOS did, they should bump into their TOS selves.

I seriously doubt they will, tho. The 'present' in "nu-Assignment: Earth" will be 2012, not 1966. And even if they did visit 1966, meeting alternate versions of themselves from slighly different futures isn't the point. It should be a real-life reimagining of the stories, not an in-universe excuse for crossover fanwank.

Which is one of the reasons that I prefer to think that Nero's changes rippled forwards *and* backwards in time...

Otherwise, nuTrek's past would be full of visits by people from the TOS timeline - a timeline that is NOT their own future...and if you were from the nuTrek timeline, and say you went back in time to the events of "Assignment Earth" or "Tomorrow is Yesterday" or "First Contact"...then followed Kirk or Picard & co back to the future...which future would you wind up in...? Theirs? Or your own? Of course, you could introduce the idea of different potential/probable futures...but I think it's easier to imagine that Nero's appearance rippled both forwards and backwards in time - which makes perfect sense when you think about it - as Trek's future is *always* influencing it's past , via time travel. So...maybe the events in all of those time travel stories still happened - but they happened with the nuTrek counterparts of the TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY characters.

But that makes me wonder...which timeline is Enterprise in the past of...? Almost makes more sense if ENT is in the nuTrek past - since there were no references to Archer and Co. in any of the Next Gen era shows...though, then you;d have to discount "These Are the Voyages" - which a lot of people want to do... Probably a very similar but slightly different version of ENT happened in the nuTrek timeline. (Hell, maybe the version of Enterprise *we* saw is in it's own timeline altogether - one that was created by the events pf "First Contact"...and a different, more TOS-canon friendly version of the events of Enterprise happened in TOS' past...and another version that accounts for ships like the Kelvin happened in nuTrek's past? and as for "TAtV"...well, it's probably best we just ignore that altogether... )

 

[Good]

I think their shouldn't be any problems with time travel eps running into old continuity characters. The multiple-universes theory that the Nutrek writers used pretty much assumes that for whatever reason, Nero's time travel method was different than the others we've seen in Trek. Those all ended up with a more or less consistent timeline. There were some messy bits, like Sisko being a 21st century homeless rioter, and data's head pretty much being perpetually buried under San Francisco, but usually things sorted themselves out. But in Trek X, the time travel resulted in a split off new universe.

I see that universe as being sealed off from the old one. Any old-style time travel would simply go back into the past of this universe.