Spoilers No Time to Die - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Commander Richard, Sep 28, 2021.

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Rate the movie...

  1. 10 - Excellent

    4.2%
  2. 9

    27.1%
  3. 8

    22.9%
  4. 7

    16.7%
  5. 6

    12.5%
  6. 5

    4.2%
  7. 4

    2.1%
  8. 3

    2.1%
  9. 2

    6.3%
  10. 1 - Terrible

    2.1%
  1. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

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    Just watched this. Thought it was good, not great. Only liked every other Craig movie. Rami Malek's lack of screen time and being a very underwhelming villain probably surprised me more than the ending.
     
  2. maneth

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    I liked it, and I think the ending was better than I dared to hope. That said, Rami Malek was a pretty meh villain, although I did like the way they turned the tables on SPECTRE and killed the lot.

    James Bond will be back, but I wonder how they'll go on from here? Will it just be a total reboot every few movies when a new actor comes in, including a new Q and M, or what?
     
  3. USS Firefly

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    I find the movie ok, nothing special.
    I didn't care much for the end because I was never a fan of Craig.

    I hope that they keep M, Q and Monypenny because I like them.
     
  4. maneth

    maneth Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah, I like them too, so I'm sort of hoping they'll keep them.
     
  5. Captaindemotion

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  6. Starbreaker

    Starbreaker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Craig: Bad oyster!

    :lol:
     
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  7. Gaith

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    I didn't have much interest in seeing No Time to Die, even though I liked Spectre more than most (and certainly preferred it to Skyfall, which was equally dumb and self-serious, but much also much more treacly and self-satisfied). Indeed, I simply am not a Bond fan: I've seen the last nine movies, plus one or two others, and while some are pretty okay, I can't say I really enjoy any of them. When it comes to spy derring-do, I prefer the Mission: Impossible series, and in terms of action franchise flicks overall, I'll sooner go with a mid-tier MCU entry such as Doctor Strange or Guardians 1 (which I consider good, but not great) any day. And I was fine with Bond and Madeleine driving off into the night at the end of Spectre, even if I didn't buy their out-of-nowhere, chemistry-free romance for a moment, so, if it hadn't been a family outing to the movies, I would happily have skipped NTtD.

    And, while the movie wasn't terrible, I found myself consistently unengaged by the goings-on. I get that it's still his Vesper trauma or whatever, but when Bond starts out the movie moronic enough to think there's any chance whatsoever he's been long-conned by Madeleine, instead of merely still targeted by the international criminal group run by his vengeful half-brother he was battling days before, it becomes impossible to care about him. Lashana Lynch's agent was credibly badass, but then the movie broke itself with Ana de Armas' character, because if a slim, novice field agent can fight as effectively as a 00, and then laugh off the death she's wrought, what's so special about a hulking, tormented brute like Bond?

    Ergo, since I felt no involvement with the paper-thin Bond character or the absurd story (as others have pointed out, Rami Malek doesn't seem to have any motivation at all for the havoc he kinda threatens to inflict), I just waited, and waited, and waited, for the twists to be over and the movie to conclude. It wasn't terrible, but it certainly wasn't memorable, and I don't see myself returning to the Craig run down the line. Heck, maybe we can just be done with Bond in general?

    No Time to Die: C+

    As for that ending: it might have hit a lot harder had I not recently seen Hugh Jackman, Stephen Amell, and Robert Downey Jr. end their runs of playing iconic characters with similar finality. But, even though I went in not suspecting it at all, once it looked as though that was what they were doing, I just thought to myself, "sure, of course this is how it goes." The question is, can Harrison Ford's Indy possibly survive his next, presumably final (pre-Disney reboot) film?! :p
     
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  8. Starkers

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    Got the Blu-ray for Christmas so now seen it three times and frankly it gets better with every viewing. For a film close to three hours in length I'm never bored, and rarely checking my watch. Yeah Safin should have been better, and it annoys me that they couldn't have given him a big more of a post Spectre agenda, not sure he really needs the money whoever was coming to buy the nanobots would pay him. I do like Malek's performance better now and certainly he's a better villain than Blofeld or Greene.

    The first time the ending just left me shocked. On second and third viewings I may have had something in my eye ;) It's Madeline's "I'm going to tell you a story..." line that gets me.

    One thing is certain.

    James Bond will return. ;)