Spoilers No Time to Die - Grading & Discussion

[Kor]

As far as the EMP watch, Q described its function as follows: "Contains a limited radius electromagnetic pulse. It’ll short any circuit in a hardwired network if you get close enough."

So the nanobots must not have worked on the principle of a "circuit in a hardwired network."
And neither did Bond's earpiece comm, since that also kept working even after he used the watch.

Kor

 

[STEPhon IT]

I'm glad this version of Bond is dead, but there were avenues the producers could have implemented to saved his life.

 

[XCV330]

since magnetizing mechanical watches is a problem, it would have been funny if they'd frozen the hands after the first emp use (assuming his Omega wasn't a quartz.. Brosnan wore an Omega quartz analog in his films, at least for awhile) for nitpickers pausing in 4k. It would have blown someone's mind

 

[thribs]

I got the vinyl the other day. It’s funny that it has a sticker saying that it includes the brand new theme song by Billie Ellish. That song is nearly 2 years old. This vinyl has probably be stored in a warehouse collecting dust for over a year before they could release it.

 

[Kor]

I tried watching Matt Helm. It’s kind of amazing Dino got bigger paychecks off of that than what Connery was getting from Bond.

Matt Helm and Derek Flint were comedic takes on the genre. I prefer the OSS 117 series from France in the 1960s for a more serious take, though obviously with lower budgets than the Bond movies (but the recent ones with Jean Dujardin are spoofs).

Kor

 

[Starkers]

Diana Rigg was paid less for the Avengers than the cameramen

 

[arch101]

Matt Helm and Derek Flint were comedic takes on the genre. I prefer the OSS 117 series from France in the 1960s for a more serious take, though obviously with lower budgets than the Bond movies (but the recent ones with Jean Dujardin are spoofs).

Kor

and then there’s The Sandbaggers. The anti-Bond MI6.

 

[Starkers]

Harry Palmer was an earlier anti-Bond (can't recall if he was MI5 or MI6 however)

 

[Kor]

Harry Palmer was an earlier anti-Bond (can't recall if he was MI5 or MI6 however)

I liked The Ipcress File and Funeral in Berlin. I thought Billion Dollar Brain was kind of silly. I don't remember if they actually said which agency Palmer worked for. And then there were a couple of cheap made-for-TV movies with Michael Caine in the 90s, but they weren't actually based on Len Deighton novels.

For more gritty realism during the '60s to early '70s spy craze days, there were a few films based on John Le Carre novels in those years: 1965's The Spy Who Came In From the Cold (excellent), 1967's The Deadly Affair (pretty good), and 1970's The Looking Glass War (rather dull).

Kor

 

[Haggis and tatties]

When i want some real anti Bond spy stuff i enjoy the late 60s Callan tv show.

 

[PCz911]

My little brain got hung up on nanobots.

was it Red Dwarf or Mystery Science Theater that had a running gag on nanobots?

I kept going back to that and lost the whole gravitas of the movie.

it was also too long of a movie

but I like bond movies so… there you go.

 

[wayoung]

Nanobots are the new genetic engineering which was the new atomic radiation. They can do anything and everything.

 

[Saul]

was it Red Dwarf or Mystery Science Theater that had a running gag on nanobots?

End of season 7 Red Dwarf and start of season 8. But TNG had them too at the end of season 3 when they were discussing how to beat the Borg, who would later use nanobots to assimilate people in First Contact.

 

[XCV330]

In '84 my college Journalism professor claimed the actor playing Chaplin in the IBM commercials earned more money than the original Tramp ever did himself. I don't want to believe that and never have. Just don't let it be true.

Chaplin was extremely rich but he lost a lot of money after he was banned from the US.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Edgar Wright has an idea for Bond. I don’t think Eon would hire him (much like Marvel, he’d probably be a bit too radical for them), but I’d love to know what his pitch is https://www.gamesradar.com/edgar-wr...d-Y3T6O0Ji9fEanEs3iabRFP70RTY8nJsLjjtC3okK8GU

 

[PhotoBoy]

Saw the film last night, for the most part it was really good. I’d have much preferred if Bond had been able to sail off into the sunset rather than be killed off. They really outdid themselves on this film with all the globe trotting and gorgeous locations they found. They seemed to travel to even more places than the last M:I film.

I get the feeling they must have re-edited the movie to change Heracles to be nano-machines instead of a virus because of Covid. It makes so much more sense as a virus- it’s stolen from a bio-weapons lab, the manufacturing process on Chemical Island seems much more how you’d culture a virus, it’s somehow permanent and can be transferred indefinitely which makes more sense with a self-replicating virus and EMPs wouldn’t affect viruses. I don’t necessarily mind, it just sort of stuck out to me as I was watching.

It was nice to see Q plug Obruchev’s USB stick into a “sandbox”. It irked me no end in Skyfall to see the supposed boy genius just plug an enemy device directly into their top secret MI6 network and just switch it on. It should have been x-rayed, dismantled and the drive cloned.

I loved how Lyutsifer’s base reminded me so much of Dr. No, it was a really fantastic and visually arresting series of sets. I really need to re-watch Dr. No now as it’s been years since I last watched it.

Zimmer’s score was OK, it’s fairly bland played over headphones but at full blast in a cinema it manages to work. There were a few places where it sounded like Batman Begins! The Billie Eilish song was pretty meh, but maybe it was grow on me, most of them do after a few listens. I still miss the iconic scores of John Barry.

My favourite moment was when Obruchev was raving at Nomi that he’d program the nano machines to wipe out “her race” and she kicked him into the lake of nano machines.

Overall I’d give it a 7/10. Probably Craig’s second best Bond after Casino Royale.

 

[Starkers]

^ re re-editing of the film, my understanding was that the film was locked in as the pandemic began, and that no changes or reshoots have been made, or even could have been made.

 

[Vger23]

I personally loved it. I think it's one of my favorite Bond movies, and just a hair under Casino Royale. That said, I've never had the desire to see a Bond movie more than once in the theater, and I will indeed be doing that this coming weekend with NT2D.

9/10

 

[Saul]

^ re re-editing of the film, my understanding was that the film was locked in as the pandemic began, and that no changes or reshoots have been made, or even could have been made.

That worked out for the best. I think changing and reshooting things because of the pandemic would have only hurt the film.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

The rumors of reshooting the film stems from a Midnight’s Edge video. After delaying the film due to COVID-19, ME was claiming that the real reason for the delay was because there were test audiences reacting negatively to the “woke” elements in the film and that MGM was scrambling to do massive reshoots to get rid of the “woke” stuff.

Of course, that all turned out to be bullshit. No surprise. I always knew they were full of it, but I’m much more super familiar with Bond productions than I am with Star Wars and Star Trek, so it was even easier for me to see right through what ME was trying to put out.