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TKO

This one is better than I remember it being first we have this boxing fighter who comes to the station all arrogent and has no respect for the Mutai fight /alien culture which he is trying to gain entry to.Reminds me of how arrogent America is about imposing it's viewes on other cultures.It ends of course with Walker Smith respecting the Mutai fight.The Susan Ivanova storyline was great seeing the jewish faith represented in a science fiction format which to my knowledge hadn't gotten much of a represation.Grade 8/10 stars .
 
T K O
This was never my favorite episode due to the Mutai aspect-fight sports are simply not to my taste. What I did like about this episode were the relationships. Garibaldi and Smith renewing acquaintances and Susan with her honorary uncle were nicely done. Another thing not often seen on TV was the honesty shown about Susan's bottling up her grief and it's sudden release.

Grail
I've always liked this episode more than it seems most people do. Aside from the obvious errors (2 castes, cycles), there's a gentleness to it that I've always appreciated. Aldous Gajic's quiet belief in Jixo's goodness, his otherworldly search while being able to defend himself quite ably, all were played beautifully by David Warner.

I think Jinxo's character gets lambasted a little too harshly, too. Yes, his "Thomas, my name is Thomas." is cliche', but it's not like he made a big deal until Garibaldi wished him well by his nickname. It was only then that he pointed out that he had a real name that was all he intended to answer to. It always seems that people think 'Grail' is a typical 'redemption' story but Jinxo/Thomas wouldn't have been in trouble in the first place if he'd agreed to do what Deuce wanted him to. It wasn't just that he owed Deuce money.

Anyway, I'm kind of fond of 'Grail'.

Eyes
Not your usual 'recap show', where cuts of previous episodes are shown in order to bring new viewers up to date but...it still feels like it. While the only real clip shown from previous episodes was of the Vorlon ship smoking Deathwalker's ship, the frequent mentions of the different ways that Sinclair had bent the rules made the story of Ben Zayn feel more like a framework.

I know, I know...the whole point was to show that on B5, actions have consequences, it just didn't work well for me. The other, smaller stories, where we're supposed to learn that Gray is a nice guy seemed really forced. Why on earth whould he bare his soul like that on the Observation Dome, of all places? The Lennier and the motorcycle sequences didn't do anything for me, either.

On the other hand, I loved the Ivanova dream sequence. By now we know that there was a real bond between them that the mother's suicide would forever leave unhealed. The last few episodes have done a nice job of making Inanova more human.

Jan
 
Watched Grail and I am having a hard time finding something good to say.Earlier I said the only thing that made this ep interesting was David Warner and I am afraid the decision still stands.

EYES

Jeffrey Combs as Harriman Gray everything in B5 has consequences and we learn more about Psi Corp and how just being a teep can end someone's career dreams .Made me feel sorry for the teep and not the organization they belong.One problem I had with this episode was why didn't Bester assign someone who's loyalty to Psi Corp was guaranteed ? It was nice seeing Lennier again but the story was lame .
 
Posted by Lindley:
Posted by OmahaStar:
And finally, this was Joshua Cox's first episode. Here, he was supposed to be a simple one-time no-name-or-background tech, the same as any on CNC, the background characters ... Who could have imagined the role he would eventually play in the series' future?

Funny how that works. I can think of at least two other major characters who started out as one-offs also. Three, if you count.....well, that would be getting ahead of things.

Yeah, I did always find this interesting myself.

I guess JMS was pretty adept at figuring out when someone "worked" in a role...and kept bringing them back. One of them even ended up being a headliner later one.

Pretty cool!
 
Make that four. I just remembered someone else who first showed up in season 4, but would probably count as "major" by the end.
 
Er, well, it seems I have got both ahead and behind everyone else! I got a bit hooked on the series and watched ahead, meaning to do the reviews last week, but had a fairly busy week IRL so didn’t! Here are my reviews for last week AND the week before! (Hope this post isn't too long! :o)

And The Sky, Full Of Stars

Well, this was exciting! The first episode to really deal properly with the “hole” in Sinclair’s mind (although to be fair, I haven’t seen The Gathering). Along the course of the episode, we begin to really think about the question: “why did the Minbari surrender?” The Knight has visible Pro-Earth beliefs (though I did find the “real estate” comment funny, living near the largely British-populated Costa del Sol as I do!), and the way he sets about finding the “truth” is completely underhand and cruel. However, his suspicions are understandable in themselves: even Sinclair realises that there IS something there, something he can’t account for. I really like O’Hare’s performance in this episode, too, since he is both outraged at the Knight’s callous treatment of him and yet in the end, genuinely intrigued himself about what the answer is.

The flashback scenes are great, and the music was pretty good in them too, I thought. Sinclair’s desperation, his final kamikaze run at the Minbari ship, and indeed the very sight of the Minbari as aggressors (having known them this season as peaceful, solemn people) are all impressive. And, as others have noted, I was amused to see the question “What do you want?” being asked for the first time, during the Grey Council part of the flashbacks. Though – what is it with Minbari and triangles?? Heh.

Delenn is also interesting in this episode: till now, we have seen the Minbari as honourable, above all. This episode (and the next, Deathwalker), will show that they too have their evasions, their double standards, their violence. I’m really looking forward to that aspect of the show: discovering the Minbari’s real complexities, which until now have been spoken of rather than demonstrated. Relevant to Believers, the idea of the Doctor’s unshakeable belief in the Hippocratic Oath is reinforced: so far, it’s the strongest aspect of his character and one that ties in quite a bit to the series’ budding themes of belief and religion.


Deathwalker

Again, I liked this episode a lot. It’s the diplomacy aspect, I gotta say: so far I am LOVING the episodes that get all the ambassadors together. It really sets the scene in B5 and seems to expand the universe of the show. Little scenes, like the one in which G’Kar (sitting at the council) waves at someone off-screen – they just make it all that more fun and convincing. And Jha’Dur was a pretty cool character): there was something extremely menacing about the performance (not just the reputation). The actress’ statuesque build, her voice which was both sweet and harsh (and once again, evil = British! Lol), and the cat-eyes design, were all memorable. The only thing I found a bit unconvincing was that the Dil’Gar race could be entirely gone, considering the war was only thirty years ago.

Like I said, the reaction of the different races made this ep great. I loved the scenes with G’Kar and Na’Toth: they already really seem to have formed an understanding of each other. Their passionate, vengeful nature combines pretty interestingly with their sense of political expediency (in G’Kar’s case especially, of course!). But he won’t go against Na’Toth. Meanwhile, neither the Centauri nor the Narns want to get into the question of interstellar justice (rather than just personal revenge), and, surprisingly, neither do the Minbari. Lennier gets his first proper bit to do in this ep, and he looks genuinely remorseful for it. The Minbari are shown to have sheltered a vicious murderer (and a strong enemy of Earth). The worries of the non-allied worlds were put across well by their main speaker: once again, the nature of the station itself is called into question as a neutral meeting-place for things to be decided above and beyond mere global interests.

The subplot with Kosh was confusing, but what else can you expect?? As we hear, he is “leery” of telepaths, and is presumably going to use the info gathered against Talia in the future. It doesn’t seem to have much relevance, and of course it’s convenient that Talia only hears of the human VCRs once the deal is done. However, it adds a bit more depth to her character and to the nature of telepaths themselves: and keeps Kosh in the picture so that his sudden crossover into the A-plot at the episode’s end has even more oomph. “You are not ready for immortality”- a very fair point, though you’d have to ask if the Vorlons faced any consequences as a result of this unasked-for intervention!

Survivors

I’m not a huge fan of Garibaldi. This episode made him more interesting, but maybe I’m just not as convinced by Jerry Doyle’s acting in general as I am by the other actors’ (and being given dialogue like “she just died inside” doesn’t help). It’s not that he’s bad (his reconciliation speech at the end was quite touching), but he’s just not that good either. This was a OK episode: it becomes more interesting when connected up with <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>the successful assassination attempt in "Chrysalis", again abetted by a dodgy second-in-command!</span><hr /></span>. We see President Santiago’s tour kicking off – and it’s interesting to compare his depiction here with that in the pilot ep. Midnight on the Firing Line mentioned him as being more isolationist than his opponent: yet in this episode, he’s under attack from even MORE isolationist factions with regards to his policies about aliens. The scenes of B5’s underworld were quite good. Not extremely imaginative, but then maybe that’s the point: it’s all drab down there. There’s also a nice little bit of exposition for By Any Means Necessary, with the lack of proper supplies and so forth being discussed by Garibaldi and Ivanova at the start. (On a side note, I have to say: Ivanova’s “I’m Russian” comments were cute at first, but are now beginning to get a bit wearying and heavy-handed.)

The character of Liana Kemmer was good, though slightly cliché at first. (I didn’t like the whole symbolism with the hair being up or down: Ivanova seems to change her hairstyle just for the heck of it, not because it denotes a different character trait, and realistically enough. It’s just hair.) Again – she seems completely unreasonable at first, but then extrapolating into her point of view, there does seem to be convincing circumstantial evidence against Garibaldi (and a convincing case against him in the past, though that shouldn’t have influenced her). Again though, it’s worrying to see the second in command nearly get away with it: surely it shouldn’t be that easy!

Lastly, just cos I gotta mention him: couple of classic moments from G’Kar in this episode. The comic scene where he insists that a seating arrangement is “a slap in the face to the entire Narn Regime”, and the much more serious scene where he tries to get Garibaldi on his side. Also interesting to see how Londo – despite his genuine friendship for Garibaldi – STILL tries to use him against G’Kar.

By Any Means Necessary

OK, let me start off by saying I LOVED this episode. It’s one of the most entertaining ones I’ve seen so far. Again, I absolutely adore the fact that we get to see the dock workers, the people who essentially run the commercial side of the station – and practical/political concerns like the budget and the increased military spending. Moreover, I really liked the performance by Katy Boyer as Neeoma Connolly – she was completely convincing, and her character was both principled and reasonable. Del Vientos was also pretty good. I’m afraid that the John Snyder performance as Zento seemed to go off the rails a bit – I watched this ep with a friend and she agreed, he’s doing fine till that transmission to Sinclair in the middle of the night, and then he starts overacting like crazy.

The whole episode just feels so wide somehow: touching on many aspects of the B5 ‘verse. We see G’Kar praying, for the first time – expanding on that subtlety and respect we first see in his little monologue to Catherine Sakai about Sigma 957. We then see him as one of many influences on the increasingly embattled Sinclair, when dealing with the incident: Connolly and Senator Hidoshi are others. There are some great little touches: Hidoshi’s passing-the-buck line “you will make it work”, and the inbetween scenes where Ivanova’s voice is heard making excuses to the waiting transports. Connolly’s various consultations with Sinclair and with her people are convincing (as is the background she gives on similar conflicts elsewhere) – and there is a real suspense for the final showdown, even if it is bloodless. This episode raised my respect for Sinclair even further, to the point where I really, really like him now: he stays objective and reasonable, and heartfelt at the same time. His solution is clever, though Hidoshi’s words at the end (on future retribution from Zento’s friends) are ominous.

The G’Kar subplot was all kinds of wonderful, of course. It’s great to see Ragesh 3 come back into the plotline: and it’s unnerving to see Londo being so amiable even as he disrespects G’Kar’s religion right to his face. <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>Having seen “Chrysalis” and heard too many rumours for my own good, am inclined to believe this is a sign of things to come for Londo.</span><hr /></span> On a side note … there doesn’t actually seem anything silly to me about worshipping the Sun. It makes a great deal of sense, objectively. The scene in C&C, where the ISN reporter follows Sinclair and then G’Kar & Londo storm in, was priceless. I do believe G’Kar says “Your petty little gods can kiss my codpiece!”

Signs and Portents

Well, heck. Lol. This was great, and it’s not for nothing that it carries the season’s umbrella name for a title. Where to begin …?

The Raiders haven’t been the most fascinating aspect of this show, really. We don’t know their allegiances or motives, and they’ve been largely faceless. The main Raider actor doesn’t do anything to remedy the situation: he’s really a bit dire. But they become useful for the purposes of the plot, so that’s great. I do think Sinclair coulda been slightly quicker on the uptake when it came to the Raiders’ decoy: but overall, the depiction is quite convincing. The note about spaceships big enough to create their own jump-points was interesting..

The next plot point to be brought in is the Eye: the ultimate symbol of imperial power for the Centauri. Londo has a genuine kind of reverence for it: it symbolises all that his people used to be (although, erm, the actual prop doesn’t look all that impressive, heh). Those who sold it to him were pretty dodgy themselves – I wondered at first if they had anything to do with Morden too …? Lord Kiro and Lady Ladira are both pretty fine performances: in particular, I really liked the scene where she’s lying on her bed, in the midst of opulence, and yet can only hear echoes of destruction. Seemingly, Psi abilities are going to play a big part in this series, and so this was another insight into their world. The vision she allows Sinclair to see, of B5’s destruction, was pretty impressive too: the music was well used, and the thousands of little explosions before the big blast was an unexpected and evocative touch.

Again, any ep where the ambassadors all get their say is good by me: and they certainly do get their say here. Morden is intriguing from the start: he looks like he should be in New Kids on the Block, or at least, be a smooth James Spader type baddie in a John Hughes film. Yet – that is not what he is. The first sight of the spidery <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>Shadow</span><hr /></span> spaceship at the end of this episode is more than scary, and backs him up entirely. It is interesting to see that he even approaches Delenn (I would have thought the Minbari would be aware of them, and indeed she proves to be) – though he avoids Kosh. (Great little detail at the end regarding Kosh’s encounter suit!) As for G’Kar and Londo … once again the parallels are striking. They both want power for their people: they are both angry at their own helplessness. <span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>I’m intrigued as to why Morden chooses Londo and not G’Kar. Is it the fact that in this ep at least, G’Kar expresses a desire only for specific revenge on the Centauri, whereas Londo wants a more general sort of power for his people?</span><hr /></span> I really gotta question Londo’s logic here though – do they not have mafias on his homeworld??

And one final thing. The scene where Londo and G’Kar wait for the elevator. :lol: Too good! Once again, Londo’s seeming amiability is used to give an extremely callous message. And again, G’Kar’s temper gets the better of him: while at the same time, his expressions suggest that he too realises the Narn Regime’s current policies aren’t the best they could be.

~~~ Well, that’s it for me! I will get up to date on this week’s episodes!
 
Posted by Llanita:
<span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>I’m intrigued as to why Morden chooses Londo and not G’Kar. Is it the fact that in this ep at least, G’Kar expresses a desire only for specific revenge on the Centauri, whereas Londo wants a more general sort of power for his people?</span><hr /></span>

<span class="spoiler"><font class="small">Spoiler:</font><hr /><span>I thought the same thing, in a way the most important question asked by Morden isn't "what do you want" as much as it is "and then what?". G'Kar's ambition stops when his people is at peace while Molari is up for the Galaxy</span><hr /></span>

I'm terribly late in my episode reviews, I'll try to catch up tonight.
 
Nice reviews, Llanita. It's great to see people discovering B5 - I'm always kinda envious, though. I'd love to be able to watch it all over again for the first time. :D

I've got no idea when I'll get around to the next batch of episodes. Still, there's no rush with this particular group... :D
 
I watched TKO earlier and I have to say I actually liked more then I thought I would. The fight plotline wasn't that bad and I enjoyed Susan's story.
 
I'll fourth or fifth or whatever the enjoyment of reading your reviews Llanita. This is only my second time through most of these episodes and it's been great fun, but discovering a great series and watching it for the first time happens so rarely (for me) that I, too, am jealous. On to the episodes.

"TKO"--I'm embarassed to say that the entire time I watched this episode I was thinking of that stupid Jean-Claude VanDam movie with the same plotline. Derivative and pointless. At least the Ivanova story offered some redemption for the episode--that part was well done and further developed her character and her friendship with Sinclair.

"Grail"--Only 2 castes? I thought JMS had this planned out from the beginning? More about down-below was revealed, but there's not much else in this episode. Weak stuff.

"Eyes"--Reasonably entertaining episode. Furthers what we know about Ivanova and the PsiCorp, but again, nothing really new. The bad guy (can't remember his name) is a typical over-the-top interrogator out for blood. I can't say I didn't enjoy it despite its shortcoming, but it isn't a strong episode.

Back to some good ones next week. Joy.
 
Good reviews, Llanita! I'm glad you are enjoying the show!

I watched two episodes myself yesterday....

TKO:

Well, this has never been my favorite B5 episode. But I do like the Ivanova bits. And if you fast forward through the Mutai, it's not that bad of an episode, really. :p

The Ivanova storyline is really interesting though. And I think it's really good that she made peace with her father at last...or at least his memory, anyway.

No Londo in this episode - boo!


Grail:

Wasn't as bad as I remember, really. Jinxo is an idiot...but other than him, it's not that bad of an episode. The usual scumbag down-below type causing problems got to be pretty normal on B5. Which I think is a good thing - more realistic that there are still social problems in 2258.

I really love the way Delenn treated the "honored seeker". The Minbari Religious Cast totally rocks! They have such a unique way of looking at everyone and everything.

One question though. I actually noticed this during the last time I saw this episode, but had no one to ask. I noticed that they talk about there being two casts in Minbari society. What happened to the Worker Cast? Did JMS write them in later or something? What's the story there?

As for Londo, I thought he was really funny in this episode. Hiding out in his quarters for fear of the 'creature'. :lol:

Londo Line(s) of the Episode:

(yelling over Babcom to some Centauri bureaucrat):

"I don't care who AUTHORIZED it! I don't care how old the quarantine is! I don't care about THE. BUDGET. And I CERTAINLY don't care about how much trouble it is for YOU! We're talking about THE most dangerous beast in the entire sector! Find someone who can say 'Yes', and PUT THE QUARANTINE BACK IN PLACE!!!!"

:lol:

And to Vir:

Londo: "Vir! What are you DOING?"
Vir: "Why, I'm being efficient, sir!"
Londo: "A few more like you, Vir, and the entire Centauri Republic will "efficient" itself into extinction!"

:guffaw:

Gotta love Londo! :cool:
 
I rationalize the "two caste" thing by saying that the Worker Caste is often overlooked and forgotten by the others; they certainly aren't very active in Minbari politics.

Of course, Delenn recognizes this fact later on....
 
That's going to make watching the remainder of the series especially hard. :(

First Richard Biggs and now Katsulas... *sigh* :( :(
 
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