Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by Neroon, Aug 20, 2007.
Are you just watching for the first time?
"I am a Ranger! We walk in the dark places no others will enter! We stand on the bridge, and no one may pass! We live for the One, we die for the One".
No. I've watched it for the first time in 2009 and then I knew why it has such a high reputation among Sci-fi fans. Great show.
A Babylon 5/ DS9 crossover would have been nice.
there was a hilarious fan made tng /b5 cross over on midwinter way back
it affectionately made fun the short comings of both shows and the ensuing culture clash of having these people meet
I've wlways liked this one
"What does the candle represent?"
"All life, every life. We're all born as molecules in the hearts of a billion stars, molecules that do not understand politics, policies and differences. In a billion years we, foolish molecules forget who we are and where we came from. Desperate acts of ego. We give ourselves names, fight over lines on maps. And pretend our light is better than everyone else's. The flame reminds us of the piece of those stars that live inside us. A spark that tells us: you should know better. The flame also reminds us that life is precious, as each flame is unique. When it goes out, it's gone forever. And there will never be another quite like it. So many candles will go out tonight. I wonder some days if we can see anything at all."
-- Sheridan and Delenn in Babylon 5:"And All My Dreams, Torn Asunder"
i remember one review said of that nice speech
that deelen got so deep into her own metaphor
that she got lost
i loved it
I've never watched B5, but I'm definitely interested.
I'm on season 1 of DS9 now in my first Star Trek watchthrough, intermixing it with season 6 of TNG, and now I'm wondering if I should throw B5 in there too. Funnily enough, the episode I just watched, Birthright, Part I, aired the same day as the first pilot film, The Gathering. Just lucky timing, I guess, what do you think?
Also, I've heard the DVDs are poor stretched 16:9 transfers. Anywhere you can watch the standard 4:3 episodes in decent quality?
One of my favorites from DS9:
GARAK: Oh, I'm sure you would. You'd like nothing more than to pry into my personal affairs. Well, I'm not interested in dissecting my childhood. I only want to save my people from the Dominion. I don't need someone to walk in here and hold my hand. I want someone to help me get back to work. And you, my dear, aren't up to this task. I mean, look at you. You're pathetic. A confused child trying to live up to a legacy left by her predecessors. You're not worthy of the name Dax. I knew Jadzia. She was vital, alive. She owned herself. And you? You don't even know who you are. How dare you presume to help me? You can't even help yourself. Now get out of here before I say something unkind.
Garak was a great character. Written well, and they could write lines like that because Robinson could deliver them perfectly. If Baby5 had some like that, I might have watched more than the first couple of seasons.
I have that on DVD. "Star Wreck in the Pirkinning" It used to be free online, not sure if it still is. Had pretty awesome sfx for the time, and yeah, the jokes were fairly funny, especially if you researched some of the reasoning behind them. I actually watched B5 so I could understand the jokes from the "B5" side, and wound up loving the show.
I was a fan of B5 first run and now I am watching this show for the first time and I love both
I'm still sad Jerry Doyle recently passed away. Garibaldi really was a memorable character.
jerry doyles dead?
wow they really are dropping like flies
Been reading this thread has been quite entertaining, especially the first 30 pages or so. Anyways, recently I brought the first 3 seasons of the show. I'll be watching the second episode of season 3 later tonight. This is my second or third viewing of the show, as the first was in 2009. There might have been another between now and then - just can't remember.
Anyways one of my favourite quotes is:-
Mr. Morden: What do YOU want?
Ambassador Vir Cotto: I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this.
Ambassador Vir Cotto: Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?
My favourite garak quote i always use
Elim Garak: The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
I've seen DS9 and Babylon5. I usually say to people, that Babylon 5 is the best show I've ever seen. Not just Sci Fi, best show.. period. DS9 Is very good but not as good.
I have a question for the real B5 nerds.. In the canon comic, Sinclair says "I found her" did he refer to that asian girl? (whos name I forgot)
Why do its fans like B5? Please don't respond with "because it's awesome".
Why we like B5? For me it's the grand scale space opera connected in a great plot.
It was bold on many levels. It couldn't match the expensive model shots that TNG and DS9 were doing at the time, so instead they went over the top with what they could do. Coolest fighter launch since the original BSG, ignoring real world camera placement and just flew right into the screen at you, achieving Star Wars style frenetic dog fights (Trek didn't do this till The Sacrifice of Angels episode, and even then didn't match B5's intensity until the Tears of the Prophets episode in 1998?). Also to B5's credit, the overall story was mostly solid and way beyond what Trek was doing then too. Character and plot were sometimes epic, even if it often misfired at the dialogue level. Conversely, one of Trek's best qualities was the well written characters brought to life by talented actors. But when DS9 was still dealing with Bajoran politics and TNG was still doing at most 2-parters to expand story, B5 was giving us "The Battle of the Line" The mystery of why they stopped before the Minbari wiped out humanity. They gave us new gods and had them duke it out. They told us finally what happened to Jack the Ripper. This was mind-blowing at the time. You had to read sci-fi to get this level of story at the time. I still watch it every few years.
"How can we both be Emperor?" "Simple. One of you will become Emperor after the other is dead."
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