Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by Neroon, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. dregj

    dregj Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 5, 2016
    of course there all that stuff about how the ds9 team got hold of the b5 pilot
    picked the elements they liked
    and made ds9 with it
  2. kkt

    kkt Captain Captain

    Aug 3, 2014
    Not very likely. More like the DS9 team watched a bunch of Westerns and adapted them to the Star Trek universe.
  3. Kevin Wolff

    Kevin Wolff Captain Captain

    Aug 26, 2016
    I found this someplace. I've read similar reports in the past and possibly in some B5 DVD extras (not sure):

    "For years, speculation has existed that Paramount stole aspects of Babylon 5 for the premise of Deep Space Nine, owing to the fact that B5 was pitched to Paramount before being picked up by Warner Bros"

    JMS doesn't trash Trek or the production staff and says he believes they didn't steal the idea themselves, but he wondered if the development people (Paramount) steered them to it.
  4. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 20, 2001
    West Haven, UT, USA
    I love both DS9 and B5, but have never bought the conspiracy theory notion that one is a 'ripoff' of the other, because aside from their both being set aboard a space station, the two shows are very different.

    DS9 is essentially a "classic Western" transposed into space and given a Sci-Fi and mythological bent, whereas B5 is more a mixture of "hard Sci-Fi" and High Fantasy, being most reminiscent of stuff like Dune, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The Lord of the Rings.
  5. dregj

    dregj Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 5, 2016
    i honestly cant remember my source now
    but some fella seemed to confirm it
    a couple of years ago
    it was on all the sci fi sites
  6. WB2

    WB2 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Aug 19, 2016
    To be honest, there are way too many similarities to be coincidental but as they both evolved diffeen't I'm happy about it.
  7. soornge

    soornge Commander Red Shirt

    Sep 26, 2016
    forst question is b5 available for stream habent seen it on netflix or hulu? 2 just a statemnt re teying ds9 didnt like it when it first came out but revisiting it with an open mind
  8. JoeD80

    JoeD80 Captain Captain

    Oct 1, 2008
    Los Angeles
    The only streaming service Babylon 5 is currently available on is Vudu (that's Wal-Mart's streaming service, and I believe only available in US). You either rent or pay for episodes.

    Most of the episodes in the collection are the original fullscreen version rather than the redone wide-screen that is on the DVDs.
  9. guyute03

    guyute03 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 27, 2003
    Some beach, east coast USA
    Just finished re-watching all of the TNG blu-rays and now starting up all seasons of Babylon 5 on DVD. Watching on a 55 inch 4K TV with an Xbox One S. Hope the quality is improved because I hold even less hope that this show will ever be remastered on blu-ray.
  10. Aurora-7

    Aurora-7 Ensign Red Shirt

    Oct 16, 2014
    Such a common discussion theme. Beyond the idea of having stories around a space station with multiple races, I didn't see a lot of similarities. While B5 was more epic in the scope of it's story telling, it was not as sophisticated in its execution of stories and characters (though I really liked Peter Jurasik's Londo). I think that's evident in DS9 having more staying power with fans over the years, though maybe being part of the Trekverse helps that.
  11. UnknownSample

    UnknownSample Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Aug 10, 2004
    Earth's surface
    The acting was a real problem in B5 at the start. Guest actors sometimes walked through their parts woodenly, not taking them seriously.
  12. mlbach

    mlbach Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 27, 2017
    They both had space stations and they both had stable wormholes. Oh, and they both had good guys and bad guys. Other than that, there was almost nothing they had in common. I think B5 ultimately suffered from it being the creative vision of just one person, but it was an interesting show. And the LotR allusions were fun.