Night Court revival

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Amasov, Apr 3, 2022.

  1. Booji

    Booji Commodore Premium Member

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    I'm streaming from Amazon Prime and it doesn't look rough at all.
     
  2. Qonundrum

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    ^^ideally

    Such as with early Doctor Who, the b/w nature adds to the atmosphere. I'm still intrigued by an official colorization as some youtube clips by fans looked surprisingly good, but even in the 1980s there were some in the audience who couldn't handle b/w. If the excuse was "it's too old", then plopping a color layer on top of it won/t fix it, but color can have a life of its own...

    ...unless:

    https://www.wired.com/2013/01/orange-teal-infographics/
    https://www.ecgprod.com/why-all-summer-blockbusters-look-the-same/
    https://www.diyphotography.net/reasons-orange-teal-look-popular-movies/
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/aug/26/colour-grading-orange-teal-hollywood
    (and I thought it was passe by 2007...)
    https://petapixel.com/2017/02/23/orange-teal-look-popular-hollywood/
    http://notonbluray.com/blog/orange-and-teal/
    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrangeBlueContrast
    https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/5001/superman_anthology.html
    etc

    If "research for its own sake" is bad, then so is regrading old films to meet the current fad?



    From the 2006 blu-ray, noting how many people in video forums rightly complained about "the man of teal"... making new films with the intent is one thing, but as with altering aspect ratio and intended framing of scenes, altering the color palette for a new fad I'll agree is arguably insulting to the original makers. Maybe some like it. Why not include both versions or have two separate releases, a la "Bewitched" and other shows from the 1960s where the b/w seasons were colorized but both sold separately?

    Granted, prior to the ease of altering color timing with modern day equipment over the last two decades, there are shows really trying to force analogous low-tech equivalents, to varying degrees of success. A little massaging is one thing, but the modern day of flattening everything out to be pure dank teal/orange...


    Oh yuck, I mean wow. Earth is now a sickeningly puketacular teal green, prisoner outfits are black/teal stripes, white car is now an unearthly teal that nobody would have bought from the dealer at the time, much less give a paint job to that... if anything, the Fortress of Solitude has a cooler look (as in temperature, not "awesome") but that goes back to a revamp instead of a restoration - which can be good, unless they overdo it like in Star Wars. Also, the original's ice looks a little more like ice... despite the blooming of higher brightness dulling out some of the imagery... 0:39 in particular is interesting as the newer transfer really brought out the magenta (as well as turning apple green into dank teal... though the darker hue works in that scene's favor... but one scene out of how many? )
     
  3. Trekker4747

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    Did the show forget this is arraignment court? She doesn't get to just declare "guilty."
     
  4. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Can a moderator please fix the title of this thread for me to not be 22022-2023 season? Or just rename it to Night Court revival?
     
  5. Mr. Adventure

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    @Qonundrum color regrading is definitely insidious, at least with colorization it's obvious what's going on and generally labelled.

    I do think colorization and things like upgrading effects generally is futile for most projects if the intention is to attract new viewers. I doubt anyone who wouldn't watch I Love Lucy or hasn't would be swayed by a new coat of paint no matter how shiny and polished.
     
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  6. Timby

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  7. Amasov

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  8. BillJ

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    So did the original. Watching on Freevee, just in the first season, Harry Stone has found guilty and sentenced quite a few people.
     
  9. The Wormhole

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    Televised court rooms getting court procedures wrong? Why I never!

    I suppose next you're going to tell me it usually takes police departments and other law enforcement agencies significantly longer than an hour to investigate a crime and arrest the perpetrator.
     
  10. Christopher

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    According to Wikipedia, if the defendant pleads guilty in arraignment court, the judge can pass sentence then and there. It's only if they plead not guilty that the judge orders them held for a preliminary hearing or trial. So the question is, did Harry or Abby declare anyone guilty after they'd entered a plea of not guilty? If so, then they got it wrong.
     
  11. Trekker4747

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    Watching the original I only see Harry passing sentence with a guilty plea (though it's not a 100% certainty this is always the case) but in the second episode of the new series Abby judy has a line of plaintiffs there for public urination and she just says "guilty, guilty, guilty..." Which... Isn't how it works and is a little to broad and in the face of our justice system (considering how unbalanced it is anymore) past the point of a comedic hand-wave.
     
  12. BillJ

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    You’re expecting a little too much from a sitcom. Holding it to a standard that simply is never met.
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    Nor should it, really. It's Night Court.

    Wile E. Coyote was a defendant in one episode. Not a guy in a Wile E. Coyote costume. Wile E. Coyote.
     
  14. Turtletrekker

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    Yup.



    And let's not forget when the Star Trek convention came to town...
     
  15. Forbin

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    I can't understand why the video quality of an older show would keep someone from enjoying the show. Then again I've been watching TV since we had B&W Dumont console in 1960.
     
  16. cooleddie74

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    Some old SNLs from the 1970s and 1980s have color that bleeds so much you'd think it was shot on a consumer grade camcorder in 1982 and stored in less-than-ideal conditions but they're sitll watchable and still hilarious. I don't need my image to be a 4K picture with digitally-restored color to enjoy it.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    But, the magical Santa Clause and other such shenanigans are completely realistic?
     
  18. Christopher

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    That's a false equivalence. There's a difference between portraying something imaginary and inaccurately portraying something real. The former is obviously poetic license, but the latter can come across looking more like ignorance or laziness.

    People in the audience care about the subjects that are close to them. Nobody in real life works with Santa Claus or hangs out with Wile E. Coyote, but when a story is depicting a job that people actually have in real life, or an experience they've actually been through, then depicting it wrong will hit closer to home than just depicting something imaginary. You can't just assume the audience will automatically suspend disbelief; you have to earn it. And showing them that you know what you're talking about with real things makes it easier to earn their approval if you want to show them something unreal.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    Humor must require a class then. I got to remember to add the winky face here.

    I guess. I've not struggled with that when it comes to fiction. Must be my odd ball personality.
     
  20. Christopher

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    Creating humor effectively takes lots of skill and experience, yes. I've always found comedy stories more complex to write than dramatic ones, since you have to put in extra care to get the lines and tonal balance and timing just right.
     
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