Nicholas Meyer Confirms Upcoming 4K UHD Release Plans for STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN
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I'm quite sure Paramount will have a disc replacement program and corrected discs will make it to the market eventually. They were pretty responsive to picture quality concerns with the Gladiator BD a few years ago.
No, it's not the end of the world. No, nobody needs to lose their job (unless they're regularly falling asleep in the editing bay as apparently happened here). Yes, it's sloppy and yes, it's serious (and I'm stunned how many reviewers--many of whom are self-proclaimed Trekphiles--missed this, but that's a another story). Yes, it's gonna be a hassle claiming replacement discs through the mail (hopefully Paramount won't require returning the old one, can't remember what they did with Gladiator) and identifying corrected discs from tells on the sealed packaging (UPC codes, etc.). Still I do wish Trek fans would be more discriminating on stuff like this and more willing to hold Paramount accountable by waiting to purchase until a replacement is at least announced. I get it; a lot of folks got their preordered discs before the flaw was brought to light, but the more discs they sell the less incentive they have to replace the faulty pressings at all.
Are fans so terrified that Paramount is going to take their ball and go home if they demand a modicum of quality control before forking over their cash?
In which case Paramount will have nearly all the copies and will make a killing reselling them. Diabolical....Maybe the faulty version will be considered a rare collector's item if Paramount does end up doing a disc exchange. It certainly is rare already when it comes to availability at stores.
Kor
I'm sure there's a lengthy discussion of this elsewhere, but it was my understanding the theatrical cut is Meyer's preferred version, and the padded ABC version is what got labelled the "Director's Cut." Hard to imagine some of the awkward stuff in the DC being Meyers' first choice.
No, On many occasions Meyer has said he prefers the Director's cut material. Many occasions. He does not disavow or dislike the theatrical version, but he prefers the material he himself added back to the movie in 1985. He gave an interview back in 1992 where he said he was glad he was able to re-insert the material in 1985 personally and that he thought it was amusing that they put up such a stink on him cutting that material and then when it comes to the TV airing nobody cares anymore.
http://theomegasector.com/index.php...-wrath-of-khan-online-saavik-is-half-romulan/
"I put that together" Meyer told Cinefantastique Magazine in 1992. "It's ironic as a director of a feature I may not have final cut, but as a director of the television version, no one cares. Places were I was overruled, rightly or wrongly, I get to have the last word. It's very dangerous just to put things back for the sake of putting them back. I am not persuaded that artists are the best judges of their own work."
Bolded lines are mine.
http://theomegasector.com/index.php...-wrath-of-khan-online-saavik-is-half-romulan/
"I put that together" Meyer told Cinefantastique Magazine in 1992. "It's ironic as a director of a feature I may not have final cut, but as a director of the television version, no one cares. Places were I was overruled, rightly or wrongly, I get to have the last word. It's very dangerous just to put things back for the sake of putting them back. I am not persuaded that artists are the best judges of their own work."
Bolded lines are mine.
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There is footage in the ABC version that does not appear in the Director's Cut. The ABC version has never been released on DVD or blu ray.
Kor
Besides the alternative tubo-lift scene---what was seen in the ABC cut that is not on the DC?
The made some snips of dialogue for language and trimmed the eel coming in/out of Chekov's ear and a single line spoken by the computer---aside from that I have heard of nothing else.
The made some snips of dialogue for language and trimmed the eel coming in/out of Chekov's ear and a single line spoken by the computer---aside from that I have heard of nothing else.
I can think of worse moments ... Kim Cattrall (every single line she delivered in TUC) is on the top of my list.
A bit of a flip on this:
In some broadcasts of the ABC version (including at least twice by my own local affiliate during the '80s), the Kirk/Spock "ladder-scene" dialogue ("That boy, he's my son!" "Fascinating...") were completely absent. This dialogue was present in the 2002 "Director's Edition" DVD set, but are now once again absent in the new Blu-Ray release.
Watched the TMP Directors Edition last night on my 4K TV. I hadn't watched it in, probably, eight or nine years as I prefer the theatrical edition. That was a rough experience. Everything was so soft and dark. The CGI effects stood out badly against the rest of the movie.
It definitely could use a clean up.
It definitely could use a clean up.
I was never happy with the shot of Kirk and co. on the outside of the Enterprise saucer. The people and the ship just look so obviously computer-generated. The shot of the V'ger vessel entering Earth orbit is similarly video gamey.
Kor
Yeah, those CG effects definitely do look much more natural and less-obtrusive when you watch the Director's Edition DVD in 480i/p resolution on a standard-def CRT television (which is what I do). When you watch it upscaled on a 4K, they tend to look like a diseased cat's anus.
I wouldn't go quite that far.
They stood out. But even more so because the film itself wasn't cleaned up. There were scratches and specs galore throughout.
I believe they attempted to replicate a '70s film grain look when doing the new effects.
But IMO, the only new effect that really meshes well with the original movie is this shot of the Enterprise and the light thingy coming from V'ger:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=17&pid=761#top_display_media
Kor
But IMO, the only new effect that really meshes well with the original movie is this shot of the Enterprise and the light thingy coming from V'ger:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=17&pid=761#top_display_media
Kor
