New Trailer reveals new old character and confirms setting

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  1. Seventh Day of Christmas

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    He also played an FBI agent in 12 Monkeys, so maybe his experience playing "law enforcement official who gets caught up with time travellers" paid off in the audition! ;)
     
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    Brian Brophy could have played the BQ perfectly.
    Btw, back to the trailer: Could the man in the painting be JL's father? What with the old uniform?
     
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  3. Tim Thomason

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    If this guy turns out just to be some random LAPD Detective, I won't believe them. It's Lt. Ducane, undercover, making sure Picard doesn't mess up the timeline too badly.

    There is nothing the show can do to tell me otherwise.
     
  4. Kor

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    Not in the normal timeline. Jean-Luc's father Maurice was an old-fashioned curmudgeon who was against technology (and therefore, presumably against space travel), preferring to stick to traditional winemaking on Earth.

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    I originally thought it wasn't JLP in the painting, because I interpreted the scene to be revealing he's part of a family lineage of dictators. I thought the face looked sufficiently like a mix of JLP and Robert that it might be an ancestor (e.g. his father). I've since settled on it being of JLP and related to the Stargazer, maybe some kind of glorious victory portrait.
     
  6. Lord Garth

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    I figured it might've been Picard when he was younger. While it's true Picard still had a full head of hair when they switched from the (collar-less) TWOK Uniforms to the Early-TNG Uniforms, if "Violations" is anything to go by, that might not have been the case in the altered timeline. They might've held onto those older uniforms for longer. Just in this reality they were gray.

    It doesn't look anything like Picard's father, who we saw in "Tapestry", but it looks exactly like Picard around early-ish TNG. What's left of his hair is just short, instead of buzzed. So his hair looks like how it was in the first four seasons.
     
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  7. Seventh Day of Christmas

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    Looks like Jean-Luc to me too...

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  8. Timo

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    Plus meant to be older than his early TNG looks.

    I mean, they could have chosen just about any look for that painting, including youthful and muscular. The man in the painting doesn't look anything like the Patrick Stewart of 2021, and couldn't be recognized for that man were it not for the history of the matter, of the audience already knowing it all. What we see is a chosen piece of nostalgia, and they deliberately chose the 1990s look. Perhaps for the gravitas, perhaps for some in-universe plotwise reason. And then chose the militant uniform to go with that look.

    And what a look! Sure, they based the face on a photo. But the man in the painting stoops forward like the weight of the world is on his shoulders, while Stewart carried his pajamas very differently in the early TNG (partially because of the way the pajamas pulled, but still)...

    The background is a generic burning battlefield, rather than something specifically yelling "Spaaaaace!". Not even a crashed starship in sight. Was this Picard even in the business of sailing the stars?

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  9. Lord Garth

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    '80s, really, but otherwise yes.

    I didn't think about it until we had the picture right in front of us in this thread, but the thing this actually reminds me the most of is Patrick Stewart's role in Dune. Which came out three years before "Encounter at Farpoint".

     
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  10. eschaton

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    Yep, looks pretty much identical to Picard when TNG first started. Maybe the hair is a touch longer, but that's about it.
     
  11. StewMc

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    I think the 12 Monkeys connection is actually the right answer: Terry Matalas was showrunner on both that and this season of Picard. The Ducane connection may just be a coincidence.
     
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  13. ThreeEdgedSword

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    Yes, it is probably Picard.
     
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    Thinking that might be anybody but alt-timeline Picard is overthinking it. It's a trailer, they're trying to get something across by showing the portrait that's simpler and more direct than it being a relative or something.
     
  15. Ar-Pharazon

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    Considering it's a painting, it could definitely be early TNG (or earlier) Picard. Data's "daughter" wasn't an perfect match for Dahj/Soji, but close enough so you'd know who it was supposed to be.
     
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    “Annika,” said Rain, “you and your dad look suspiciously remind me of a guy I met a long time ago, went by the name of Tom Paris.”
    “You've met Tom Paris?” Seven replied wistfully. “It's a name I haven't heard in a while”
    “That young man is a menace,” Picard said bitterly.
    “No shit, he erased my computer, lost all my work on it. Had to start a new career over.”
    “No, he is a good man,” Seven objected.
    “A good man? He had to change his name from Nic Locarno after what he did to that poor boy. We, neither I nor Annika, have nothing to do with that man Tom Paris.”
    “I was at his wedding,” Seven corrected. “At least twice.”
    “He left me on the road in the middle of the desert, too.”
    “He saved you from the truck that tried to run you both over and left you with your vehicle, didn't he?” Seven asked.
    “Wait. Fuck. How do you know that? So you actually, really, know Tom Paris?”
    “Yes,” both answered
    “Are you fucking kidding me? You know the spaceship Tom Paris? Secret agent Tom Paris? For real real?”
    “Yes,” Seven said. “I was there, right behind you, hoping to sneak on the truck when you were not watching and arrest Braxton on his ship, before Chakotay blew it up.”
    “And here I thought you were a pair of con people, trying to steal my money with their hard to believe arrest story. Because you're clearly not father and daughter. And, seriously, who in LA has never driven a car? I mean, I know some asshats who can't drive, but they do it anyway.”
    “Hey, that is close to what I did.”
    “And why would you three secret agents who can't drive be in trouble with the law?”
    “We are not...”
    “Undercov...”
    “...exactly from around this circle of the law...”
    “We're not even from Tom Paris's.”
    “You could say our mission is strictly off the books.”
    “Oh, great. Rogue secret agent con men with a spaceship, probably stolen. Great. We're so fucked.”
     
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    I'd watch this show.
     
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    The second image, I'm still going with Robert Pine and this is all a big crossover with C.H.i.P.S.
     
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  20. KennyB

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