New Series?? Report from Deadline
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First off: where are the people claiming CBS wasn't interested in making a new Star Trek series?
Secondly: why does the press release state with a disclaimer: this series will have nothing to do with Paramount's Star Trek Beyond.
It is there for a reason.
A few months ago, Frakes was one. Many curses of 'Les Moonves hates Scifi!' were to be found on the accompanying thread.
I freely admit that back then, I agreed with the position that it made sense for CBS not to take the risk (not that they'd never make another one mind you, just that there was more to putting it off than CBS being lazy or spiteful.) Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
There are a million reasons why the disclaimer could be there. I just read it as a reassurance to prospective newbies 'No, you don't have to be familiar with the films in order to watch the show."
I freely admit that back then, I agreed with the position that it made sense for CBS not to take the risk (not that they'd never make another one mind you, just that there was more to putting it off than CBS being lazy or spiteful.) Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
There are a million reasons why the disclaimer could be there. I just read it as a reassurance to prospective newbies 'No, you don't have to be familiar with the films in order to watch the show."
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3-4 seasons is not a disaster. 1 season or cancelled mid-season would be a disaster. 3-4 seasons is a respectable run for a series these days.
Besides Kurtzman, we have no idea who is working on it. We don't even know the premise yet, let alone whether anything is 'same old.'
Actually, that's not entirely true - we know they're trying new things with the medium.
Autistoid, why couldn't you have revealed these amazing precognitive abilities a few hours ago. You know, before the Melbourne Cup?
Actually, that's not entirely true - we know they're trying new things with the medium.
Autistoid, why couldn't you have revealed these amazing precognitive abilities a few hours ago. You know, before the Melbourne Cup?
They haven't hired anybody yet. So how can you know they've hired the wrong people? Wait until Kurtzman puts a staff together and finds a showrunner then you can freak out. I know us Trekkies like to issue a red alert at the first sign of a weird sensor reading but let's give the show at chance. At least wait until the cast and crew are announced!
With Alex Kurtzman running it I'm sure it'll be fine. He's one of the two writer-producers who successfully rebooted Star Trek for the 2009 movie and brought back Khan in STID.
CBS hired him, rather than any of the much-discussed fan favorites from the old shows, for a reason.
CBS hired him, rather than any of the much-discussed fan favorites from the old shows, for a reason.
Kurtzman's a fine choice. I look forward to learning who he pulls in for the writing staff.
And having three shows currently on the Network, he has an established working relationship with them.With Alex Kurtzman running it I'm sure it'll be fine. He's one of the two writer-producers who successfully rebooted Star Trek for the 2009 movie and brought back Khan in STID.
CBS hired him, rather than any of the much-discussed fan favorites from the old shows, for a reason.
The logic of these two statements is amazing.
Do you think he's gonna pull a u turn and start doing things in a style that is magically so different from what he already does, despite being hired for what he already does.
Read between the lines for 1/10th of a second.
Because we know dam well the kind of trek CBS wants.
They want a Voyager Part 2.
Voyager was absolute shit, and if you can't see that you have an inability to use logic.
By episode 7 of the show, they had replicator rations, followed by a scene where they are on the holodeck laughing away.This is the kind is what your gonna get.
The writing is on the wall.
Maybe you like that nonsense deptless fun, but don't act like for a second this isn;t what were gonna end up with.
Your acting like the naysayers are coming out of nowhere, when we've been tolerating this crap for 20 years.
There weren't a long list of things one had to do, simply avoid duexmachina crap, and campy plot twists etc.
Instead were getting a production staff that screams, star trek didn't go off the air because voyager and enterprise were just dumb, they went off the air because they weren't action packed enough.
This is exactly what your gonna get.
I'll bite: How do you know that a currently employee-less production has hired the 'wrong' people? Of course you could mean Kurtzman, but he is not 'people' nor 'staff.'
Also, Voyager wasn't prematurely cancelled. You may have noticed that it lasted as long as both TNG and DS9, and longer than TOS (and BSG. Natch). As much as I prefer it, DS9 was as big of a 'failure' as Voyager was, and contributed just as much to the franchise slide into hibernation.
A final note: it always amuses me when people disparage the taste and intellect of others, then proceed to make their spellcheck give up and die from over-exertion.
Why would CBS want to replicate Voyager? I know it was a seven-season show (and, I guess, successful enough in the ratings), but so was The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine.
I assume that CBS wants to replicate the films, which are not Voyager-inspired, but are sequels(/prequels/revivals) of The Original Series. Roberto Orci (who isn't involved) was a big TNG fan, but Alex Kurtzman was only a fan of the Original Series (up until Star Trek IV).
So, if anything, Star Trek: Voyager is probably the furthest thing from the minds of anyone at CBS or Secret Hideout.
Also, Star Trek 2017 is Kurtzman's first project ever without his writing partner Orci. So it's impossible to tell where he will take it or what his input actually will be. People have pointed out that the Kurtzman/Orci team seem to be fond of mass conspiracies/government corruption, but that seems to be mainly Mr. Orci's preference in writing.
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