New Picard SDCC Trailer

[Verteron]

Why not be able to utilize the transwarp network for transporting?

We'll see I guess. I don't think it follows that if you master transwarp drive or slipstream drive you'll get transwarp beaming cracked automatically. But who can say? Maybe they will have it all. There are some pretty funky looking gateway-style transporter arches shown in the trailer behind Picard at one point. Maybe they are transwarp beamers.

 

[Amasov]

I thought (hope...) transwarp beaming had only been perfected in the Kelvinverse.

Worf joined DS9 in season four. How is this even possible since TNG is in a totally different universe? Since Worf was wearing a different combadge as seen on TNG, he clearly isn’t from the same timeline. That combadge was also 25% different than what we saw on TNG. Clearly made under a different license.

The theme to DS9 in season four was also different than in the first three. And don’t forget the uniform switch in season five.

Utter madness!

 

[jaime]

I thought (hope...) transwarp beaming had only been perfected in the Kelvinverse.

They implied Scotty told Spock who told Scotty

 

[jaime]

Worf joined DS9 in season four. How is this even possible since TNG is in a totally different universe? Since Worf was wearing a different combadge as seen on TNG, he clearly isn’t from the same timeline. That combadge was also 25% different than what we saw on TNG. Clearly made under a different license.

The theme to DS9 in season four was also different than in the first three. And don’t forget the uniform switch in season five.

Utter madness!

Whilst I love the humorous approach, I am worried the licensing thing is not quite being understood... xD

 

[STR]

Jesus, I never want to hear, read of even smell a whiff of "transwarp beaming". Like Khan's magic blood, and any number of TNG's "breakthrough technologies of the week with minor problems", it should be thrown away and forgotten forever.

Am I the only one that thinks that the banner is nothing more than a holodeck projection? And that this is the same scene where Picard meets Data (another hologram) for a game of poker? I mean, that does seem like the most logical conclusion based on the evidence we have so far... right?

Pretty sure Data is real (they showed the disassembled parts), though he might still just be B4 with all the cognitive and personal limitations demonstrated in Nemesis.

Picard "I don't want the game to end" - referring to life or whatever. It's metaphorical.
B4: "I can see that, captain" - referring to the literal game of cards they're playing.

 

[fireproof78]

We'll see I guess. I don't think it follows that if you master transwarp drive or slipstream drive you'll get transwarp beaming cracked automatically. But who can say? Maybe they will have it all. There are some pretty funky looking gateway-style transporter arches shown in the trailer behind Picard at one point. Maybe they are transwarp beamers.

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion, but I do like the idea of them exploring implications of technology, rather than ignoring it.

 

[Tuskin38]

Pretty sure Data is real (they showed the disassembled parts), though he might still just be B4 with all the cognitive and personal limitations demonstrated in Nemesis.

I don't think so, Spiner specifically said he was playing Data, not B4. Plus it looks like he's wearing his Nemesis uniform.

 

[STR]

I don't think so, Spiner specifically said he was playing Data, not B4. Plus it looks like he's wearing his Nemesis uniform.

That'd be awesome, as Data needed a better end than that "we gotta blow up the ship but we only have one lifeboat" trope. Still...I'm not getting my hopes up.

As for uniforms, all I saw was a mustard yellow collar, which both Androids wore in Nemesis.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I don't think so, Spiner specifically said he was playing Data, not B4. Plus it looks like he's wearing his Nemesis uniform.

Geordi worked on Data enough and probably had access to Dr. Soong's research, so he could probably just build Data a new body and transfer all the info from B4 back into Data. Of course, none of this makes sense, as why would they then disassemble either B4 or Data? Perhaps the disassembled android is Lore.

 

[Tuskin38]

As for uniforms, all I saw was a mustard yellow collar, which both Androids wore in Nemesis.

You can see a little bit of grey next to the collar. It's very easy to miss.
It's a bit of the stretch, I know

 

[STR]

Geordi worked on Data enough and probably had access to Dr. Soong's research, so he could probably just build Data a new body and transfer all the info from B4 back into Data. Of course, none of this makes sense, as why would they then disassemble either B4 or Data? Perhaps the disassembled android is Lore.

Lore is habitually incapable of having a conversation without expressing a smug-ass smirk the whole time. /s

You can see a little bit of grey on the shoulder right of the collar. It's very easy to miss.

I think that's just shadow. His left, illuminated shoulder is clearly yellow.

 

[Tuskin38]

I think that's just shadow.

That is way too different to be a shadow, it's clearly a completely different colour.

This is his left shoulder.

And the shot showing the back back of his head, it goes from yellow to grey.

 

[Crewman6]

Pretty sure Data is real (they showed the disassembled parts), though he might still just be B4 with all the cognitive and personal limitations demonstrated in Nemesis.

Watch the SDCC full cast interview if you want (some) answers to these questions. It may lightly spoil your speculation, though.

 

[Ovation]

I thought (hope...) transwarp beaming had only been perfected in the Kelvinverse.

Nope. Original universe Scotty is the one who perfected it. Prime Spock tells Kelvinverse-Scotty so explicitly. Consequently, there is a high degree of probability that it exists in Picard's time. Whether we see it, like dozens of other "this should now be a regular feature of Trek" that is mysteriously forgotten, is another matter.

 

[Steve Roby]

The difference is I think the original series used it more to show "We're flawed *RIGHT NOW*, but there's hope that in the future we solve these issues and become a much better species and then try to bring that to the rest of the universe"

Where as over time it seems like the subsequent Trek series have been more about showing that even though it is the future humanity is still extremely flawed and prone to the same issues and problems that are facing society today. It's a pretty 'shifted difference' from what Trek originally tried to present in the future to what we're now seeing.

TOS, paraphrasing A Taste of Armageddon, said we’re killers, but we don’t have to kill today. But Roddenberry decided he was a philosopher and TNG said we’re perfect and we’re showing off our perfection to the savages of the universe, but you can’t have it because Prime Directive. The message underlying TNG is significantly different from that underlying TOS. It also, as many Trek writers have said, made TNG hard to write. DS9 moved away from that by moving away from the Federation. Voyager tried to do the same, but TPTB turned it into a TNG retread most of the time. Enterprise and Discovery are prequels so they could be more like TOS, with more conflict and an attempt at perfection rather than an assertion of it. STP may take the poorly realized effort in Insurrection at bringing in some Federation imperfections a bit farther, perhaps, but I don’t expect any grimdark nihilism.

 

[Salinga]

Robert Meyer Burnett claims that the concept for ST:Picard comes from Bryan Fuller (starts at 8:20):

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[NCC-73515]

Star Trek III is in a different universe from Star Trek IV because the Bird-of-Prey bridge is configured completely differently.

They restructured it on Vulcan, cause they wanted their familiar bridge configuration... just to fly home XD

 

[Vger23]

They restructured it on Vulcan, cause they wanted their familiar bridge configuration... just to fly home XD

Absolutely!

 

[pst]

I don't think so, Spiner specifically said he was playing Data, not B4. Plus it looks like he's wearing his Nemesis uniform.

since i'm holding out hope data is an active participant and not a flashback or holoprogram or fantasy or any other type of unreal presence...

the admiral's uniform also in the trailer appears to be quite a bit different from the DS9-voyager-esque duty uniforms we see other officers wearing:

this uniform is closer to the TNG-style, mixed with the first contact/TNG movies uniforms. black trousers, gray tunic with black (or dark grey) shoulders and a division colored undershirt/collar. data (or B-4) may be wearing the operations division version of this uniform, which might be reserved for admirals, captains, or higher-up officers, or a more formal uniform option. so it's possible data/B-4 is an active member of starfleet, wearing the late 24th century, early 25th century uniform.

 

[Tuskin38]

since i'm holding out hope data is an active participant and not a flashback or holoprogram or fantasy or any other type of unreal presence...

He's calling him Captain, when he retired as an Admiral. Data would stick to his former rank.

And the collar doesn't seem to match with the uniform the admiral is wearing, and the grey is too dark.