So, the Doctor's longest running female companion has all her lines reduced to a bunch of wheezing, groaning noises? That's both sexist and obscene!
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So, the Doctor's longest running female companion has all her lines reduced to a bunch of wheezing, groaning noises? That's both sexist and obscene!
Great comeback! You just made my day!
Why not make the "visual interface" (which somehow came out of nowhere) act more like a person..similar to Idris or maybe even looking like her...and make it a companion? Have some technobabble - timey-whimy explain that "it" can leave the Tardis.
OMG you're right! I'm surprised there isn't a Tumblr dedicated to this outrage already, along with several articles on Jezebel!
So you know from personal experience that non-religious people get married in a church, but you still thought it was odd that she did?
I can think of a couple of possibilities --
A holo-emitter, like the EMH on Star Trek: Voyager.
The Flesh (from "The Rebel Flesh") to create a physical avatar driven by the TARDIS' consciousness.
A working Chameleon Circuit that lets the TARDIS adopt human form.
Lawrence Miles would probably take credit for two and three, even though the second isn't what the TARDIS does with Compassion in "Toy Story" at all. But the third is definitely a Milesian idea; both Marie (Alien Bodies) and Compassion (once she becomes a TARDIS) are like that.
Actually, what I know from personal experience is that non-religious people want to get married in a church, not that they actually do. What I left out of the story was that my sister and her fiancée broke up before actually getting married. Definitely for the best, my sister took the engagement ring to a pawn shop only to learn it had no value. I still think it's odd to think that non-religious people actually do get married in churches.
Last two weddings I went to were in the same Museum.
Fine, I'll ask another generality. Have you seen from experience that people who want to do things sometimes do those things? Just generally speaking.
So, I'm not religious, nor is my wife, but we did get married in a church. It wasn't that I really wanted to--I didn't care one way or the other. It's a venue. But, it did make many in her family happy. So, I'm happy for that reason. I'm not religious but I'm not anti-religion. I didn't see the church venue as being a negative issue.
Mr Awe
Leela. In her first couple of episodes she was a believer in shamanistic magic, and her tribe (descended from a Survey Team from Earth - later corrupted to "Sevateem") had a series of ritualistic gestures that were remnants of the actions taken by the original survey team to adjust the seals on their uniforms. But once Leela was exposed to science and rational explanations for how things happen, she quickly abandoned her shamanism... as she said, she used to believe in magic, but now felt it was better to believe in science (and don't anyone get off on a tangent about science being a religion; it isn't, and that's not how Leela meant it).
Well, she didn't come across as strident, as Tegan did, or incredibly annoying as Peri was. She'll be better than Clara from the get-go if she doesn't talk too fast, and if she's not superduperperfect at everything.
I was a late-teen/young adult in the '80s. It really wasn't the Dark Ages. We had running water, electricity, and indoor plumbing. Some people had personal computers, even though there wasn't an internet (or much of one). And somehow we managed.
What do you think the fans of the '60s thought of Jamie McCrimmon - a man from the mid-1700s? That's a considerable gap in comparison to a mere 30 years.
I never saw her as "worldly." I saw her as an obnoxious brat whose solution to everything was either to whack it with a baseball bat or blow it up with Nitro-9.
What about the Davison era? There's a grand total of ONE story where he only had one companion. The rest of the time he had 2-3 companions, plus the multi-companion Five Doctors story.
Even the Fourth Doctor had more multi-Companion stories than single-Companion ones. Parts of Sarah and Leela's runs were as singles, but after K-9 was introduced, the Fourth Doctor always had at least two Companions. There was only one Fourth Doctor story with no companion at all (The Deadly Assassin).
I do not even want to begin to imagine where the door would be in that configuration.
I got married in church as well even though i'm not religious.
Seems like you missed the point of my post. As I mentioned, I too was a teen in the 80s. At that point in my life, the 50s seemed like a long time ago. They seemed like the dark ages. All I'm saying is that I bet you the teens of today have the same view of the 80s now. It's the same 30 years difference, which is huge when you're a teen.
Of course, going back centuries is even more so. But, again, my point is that the 80s will seem very distant to the teens of today.
Mr Awe
Whether or not the companions are from the past is hardly really relevant. Assuming for a moment this companion really is from the 80s within her first few episodes she's going to get a crash course on the modern day anyway. Just like when Clara's incident with the Spoonhead suddenly gave her computer skills, in the original draft this was meant to give Victorian Clara modern knowledge.
Really we're better off with contemporary companions anyway since modern Who is just going to take companions from the past and give them a modern day update, or take someone from the future and make them a historical expert or someone already familiar with time travel, like Jack.
Really we're better off with contemporary companions anyway since modern Who is just going to take companions from the past and give them a modern day update, or take someone from the future and make them a historical expert or someone already familiar with time travel, like Jack.
I don't mean to go off on a tangent but you could make an argument that that was how Leela meant it. It's a fine line, but it's possible that Leela meant Science with a capital "S." Certainly, the way in which it replaced magic in her worldview at that point could suggest that.
I only mentioned the multi-companion configurations that I liked. I didn't particularly like any of Davison's groups. Adric was annoying. Turlough was super-annoying. Peri was shrill. Nyssa was OK but nothing special. Tegan had her moments but she was very poorly matched with Davison. (IMO, she had much better chemistry with Colin Baker in "A Fix with the Sontarans. They were both such bombastic shouters that they seemed perfect for each other.)
I never 100% count K-9 because, much as I love him, he often seemed to be less of a character and more of a plot advancing tool; like if the sonic screwdriver could talk.
I've often wondered, particularly every time I've watched Back to the Future in recent years. In that movie, 1955 & 1985 seemed eons apart. Meanwhile, the real 2015 looked far less exotic than the fictional one that Back to the Future, Part II imagined when that movie came out in 1989.
No, I'd like a companion from a different time period, past or future. Or maybe even from another world. Hopefully one where they don't whitewash the differences away!
Mr Awe
Unfortunately, I'm not convinced modern Who will ever get that adventurous with its companions. Hell, even Captain Jack was turned into someone who's lived through contemporary times by the time he started becoming a serious story focus.
^And I guess so was River. It does annoy me that people today apparently need a contemporary frame of reference to 'get' Doctor Who. But then the flipside I guess is that some previous historical/futuristic companions have quickly become indistinguishable from contemporary companions anyway.
