Netflix greenlights new "Lost in Space"

[Amaris]

I've watched the entire season, now, and I have to say it was pretty good. I have a number of quibbles, mostly with characterizations of people, but it's still a pretty decent sci-fi series. My one major complaint, however, is the lack of fun. In terms of gritty reboot style, it gets an "A." Still, there are few fun, warm moments. Granted, when they happen they're enjoyable, but everything just seems kind of subdued and desaturated, like the visuals themselves. Also, yeah, the story is a bit drawn out, and drags at times. What they took 10 episodes to do could have been done in 5. It just felt like so much padding in certain areas.

**MAYBE SPOILERS?**

My favorite character, so far, is Don West (and Debbie), followed up by Penny, who seems to have the most personality of the Robinsons. Maureen follows quickly thereafter, along with Judy, and Will, who seems like a sweet kid whose heart is very much in the right place.

Overall, then, it's a C+ for me. It has serious potential, but they need to have more fun. If they can up the fun factor by a good margin, then I can see this show as being a consistently enjoyable one.

Oh, and tighten up those stories, guys. They were telegraphing everything whole episodes before it happened, and I was guessing whole arcs from two episodes away and getting things right.

 

[Christopher]

Inflation doesn't account for all of that and Lost in Space is way more ambitious production-wise than what those series did.

Well, that's my point. However they may look in retrospect, by the standards of their day, the Berman-era Trek shows were top-notch, big-budget TV productions. Look at most of their contemporary sci-fi shows and you'll see that their production values and effects were inferior to Trek's, and they often didn't manage to get the same caliber of actors either.

And the person I was responding to mentioned Discovery as well as LiS.

 

[Maurice]

Okay, is there going to be a Spoiler warned Rating and Discussion thread? The title of this thread doesn't hint that people are going to be hashing over specifics.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Loved the Lost In Space movie; it captured the TV series while improving on it in every way. Well, except the Robot wasn't as good-looking.

The Robot looked a hell of a lot better than he did on the TV show (as does the current version on the new show)-I can prove it, too.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The Robot looked a hell of a lot better than he did on the TV show (as does the current version on the new show)-I can prove it, too.

I love movie robot. He has a special place in my heart.
He also looks like he means business but I like the new one too.

Where did those AI tentacles come from in the last episode? Did Robot leave those behind?

BTW is your's the Trendmasters version? Mine had lights and sounds.

Now for potential spoilers and a pet theory... Don't click the spoiler unless you know, you want to be spoilt.

Spoiler

The stardrives they used on the mothership The Resolute were stolen alien technology. The Jupiter engines they use on the Jupiter ships might also be stolen tech modified by humans

My pet theory and this could be a potential future spoiler

Spoiler

Earth found out about the aliens somehow before all this was set in motion, the meteor thing was a cover to get one of their ships. Maybe one of them crashed here in the past and that's how they knew about them, or some other event happened in the LIS timeline. But either way Earth knew in advance about the alien technology. That's how they got that stardrive for the Resolute.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Just finished the last episode. I'll give the whole season a 7 out of 10. I think Parker Posey did an excellent job playing a villian because I really want to see "Dr. Smith" die a slow and miserable death.

I hope we see "Carrot-Man" in season 2!

 

[Australis]

Just finished the last episode. I'll give the whole season a 7 out of 10. I think Parker Posey did an excellent job playing a villain because I really want to see "Dr. Smith" die a slow and miserable death.

Yes!

I hope we see "Carrot-Man" in season 2!

No!

 

[Australis]

I love movie robot. He has a special place in my heart.
He also looks like he means business but I like the new one too.

Where did those AI tentacles come from in the last episode? Did Robot leave those behind?

BTW is your's the Trendmasters version? Mine had lights and sounds.

Now for potential spoilers and a pet theory... Don't click the spoiler unless you know, you want to be spoilt.

Spoiler

The stardrives they used on the mothership The Resolute were stolen alien technology. The Jupiter engines they use on the Jupiter ships might also be stolen tech modified by humans

My pet theory and this could be a potential future spoiler

Spoiler

Earth found out about the aliens somehow before all this was set in motion, the meteor thing was a cover to get one of their ships. Maybe one of them crashed here in the past and that's how they knew about them, or some other event happened in the LIS timeline. But either way Earth knew in advance about the alien technology. That's how they got that stardrive for the Resolute.

Re the drive

Spoiler

In a flashback, Maureen says that story about the Xmas Star was hinky because if it had been a real strike, there would have been particulates raining back on Earth. So it was some kind of cover story. For what, not sure.

In a later episode 'Smith' overhears two of the ship's command talking about the aliens coming back for what's their's.

It looks like the Robot removed something from his ship and put it under the chariot, which carried it back to the Jupiter 2, and it then sent out the tentacles which took over the ship's systems, gave it artificial gravity and a hyperlight capability.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Never was "Faith of the Heart" more missed.

The performances were great, especially Posey, but some of the stories were by the numbers.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Re the drive

Spoiler

In a flashback, Maureen says that story about the Xmas Star was hinky because if it had been a real strike, there would have been particulates raining back on Earth. So it was some kind of cover story. For what, not sure.

In a later episode 'Smith' overhears two of the ship's command talking about the aliens coming back for what's their's.

It looks like the Robot removed something from his ship and put it under the chariot, which carried it back to the Jupiter 2, and it then sent out the tentacles which took over the ship's systems, gave it artificial gravity and a hyperlight capability.

It must have been a very quick moment because I missed seeing the robot put the thing there in the final episode.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

@Bad Thoughts. Your sig is making me think. Would they really have to leave? Probably a topic for another thread in the correct forum of course

 

[MarsWeeps]

but some of the stories were by the numbers.

One of the minor annoyances I found was when Maureen was working out calculations on paper and kept crumbling up the papers and throwing them away in frustration over and over.

How many millions of times have we seen that act played out? I actually rolled my eyes over that one. It reminded me of the Brady Bunch episode where Greg was trying to write a song and kept crumbling up the papers in the same way.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

@Bad Thoughts. Your sig is making me think. Would they really have to leave? Probably a topic for another thread in the correct forum of course

The reference is to a script written by Hans Beimler and Richard Manning: the Enterprise encounters a planet where an active genocide was taking place. Gene Roddenberry rejected the story out of hand because he would require the crew, following the Prime Directive, to leave, allowing the genocide to continue. It was a flaw in his philosophy that he was not willing to explore.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

One of the minor annoyances I found was when Maureen was working out calculations on paper and kept crumbling up the papers and throwing them away in frustration over and over.

How many millions of times have we seen that act played out? I actually rolled my eyes over that one. It reminded me of the Brady Bunch episode where Greg was trying to write a song and kept crumbling up the papers in the same way.

There were numerous vignettes and problems that I have seen many times before, and I felt that many of the episode in the middle of the season were atrocious because of it. I really came back for the performances, especially Posey. It was nice to see a character that was convincingly manipulative without being charismatic.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The reference is to a script written by Hans Beimler and Richard Manning: the Enterprise encounters a planet where an active genocide was taking place. Gene Roddenberry rejected the story out of hand because he would require the crew, following the Prime Directive, to leave, allowing the genocide to continue. It was a flaw in his philosophy that he was not willing to explore.

Oh wow.. That would have made for an excellent discussion in the TOS forum.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Parker Posey will steal this show in the same way Johnathan Harris stole the old series. She's very good.

There were moments i wanted her to see the outside of an airlock, or the underside of a cliff.

 

[marillion]

Just started watching tonight.. 2 episodes in.. Damn.. Mom Robinson is a bitch!

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Just started watching tonight.. 2 episodes in.. Damn.. Mom Robinson is a bitch!

She does mellow a bit later on and get less bitchy

 

[Skipper]

I just finished the episode 2 and...

Spoiler: The Evil Dr. Smith!

Ok, what is the motivation to abandon Dan in the cave during a dangerous storm? Because it almost seems that she did it just for the sake of evil. Dan could be still useful to her and probably the wounded pilot would have died even without any external "help". And why she didn't tell the Robinsons that there were other survivors? Yes, probably Dan would have been very annoyed with her for the deception, but I think she would have been forgiven considering she would have saved his life.

Like I said, I'm just at episode 2, but I'm beginning to believe that the character has some deep psychological issues, because her actions don't seem motivated only by egoistic self-preservation.

 

[Maurice]

I just finished the episode 2 and...

Spoiler: The Evil Dr. Smith!

Ok, what is the motivation to abandon Dan in the cave during a dangerous storm? Because it almost seems that she did it just for the sake of evil. Dan could be still useful to her and probably the wounded pilot would have died even without any external "help". And why she didn't tell the Robinsons that there were other survivors? Yes, probably Dan would have been very annoyed with her for the deception, but I think she would have been forgiven considering she would have saved his life.

Like I said, I'm just at episode 2, but I'm beginning to believe that the character has some deep psychological issues, because her actions don't seem motivated only by egoistic self-preservation.

She abandoned Don for exactly the reason she stated: he was not going to give up on the injured Goddard, so she took what she needed (the flare gun) and went looking for others. And she doesn't tell the Robinsons about Don because she's not going to risk getting caught in that storm or what Don might do to her for what she did. She's not a rational character. She's all about self-preservation.