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Need advice on introducing myself to a girl through facebook.

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There was a time when "I've seen you around for a while and I wanted to meet you" was not considered stalking, but rather normal Human mating behavior. There's no reason why a friend request from a mutual friend on Facebook should be considered creepy.

Yes, but "I've seen you around" is something that happens out in the real world. That's not the same thing as trying to meet a girl you don't know through Facebook. And no, it's not the same as actually physically stalking someone, but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't come off well at all as a way of meeting someone.
Facebook is about social networking. This is how things are done now. It's the modern-day equivalent of seeing somebody in the bookstore and saying, "Say, aren't you Judy? I'm a friend of Bob. I saw you in that group picture he's got hanging in his apartment."

No, it's the modern day equivalent of staking out the bookstore until Judy arrives, and then following her around at a distance and picking up the books she looks at to figure out what she's interested in.
 
Ok, I'll take that advice and not send her a message. I don't want this thread to go to waste though so I shall pose this question:

Eventually my roommate is going to succeed in getting her to come over to the apartment to hang with us. Introductions will be made and I'm sure the question of "Are you the same Tony that send me a friend request?" Will come up. So how do I respond to that if/when I get posed that questions.

This one's easy.... Just say, "oh yeah I did, when I saw you in the pic I thought we'd been introduced before but I'm actually thinking of someone else"

If she thinks there's anything creepy about that then she's the one with issues.
 
If he's not being creepy, why should he have to hide or couch his intentions at all?
 
If he's not being creepy, why should he have to hide or couch his intentions at all?

Because due to inexperience or bad judgement or whatever he's put himself in an uncomfortable situation and my previous message would be an attempt to effectively erase this and start over.

If he wanted he could simply say, "you looked interesting and I felt like trying to get to know you", but unless she finds him attractive that will more than likely make her feel uncomfortable, which is a bit unneccessary since she might end up over at his place.

He might as well save that kind of talk for if there is actually an obvious attraction between them.
 
I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

He sees a girl he wants to know and, yeah, he starts planning a way to make it happen. For some guys it's not as easy to just go up to someone out of the blue and introduce yourself to them or whatever and yeah you do tend to try and think up ways you can make the encounter them in a naturalistic way so it seems like it happened on "accident" rather than you out of blue approach them.
 
The bottom line is I want to meet this girl. I have (wrongly, I admit) built her up in my head, someone I know almost nothing about, and you guys are right, that's unhealthy, and can also seem a tad creepy.

The truth is I've never had much luck with the ladies, the three major girls in my life all initiated romantically with me, it wasn't the other way around. So despite the fact that I'm almost 30 years old and have been on several dates...I still have no idea how to approach women.
 
The bottom line is I want to meet this girl. I have (wrongly, I admit) built her up in my head, someone I know almost nothing about, and you guys are right, that's unhealthy, and can also seem a tad creepy.

The truth is I've never had much luck with the ladies, the three major girls in my life all initiated romantically with me, it wasn't the other way around. So despite the fact that I'm almost 30 years old and have been on several dates...I still have no idea how to approach women.

Pretty much my story exactly.

It doesn't come easily for everyone and sometimes, yeah, you do build things up in your head or try to start "planning" ways to make it happen. It's not creepy because I'm not building picture shrines or anything but, yeah, one can build things up in your mind to try and approach things in a manner where it seems like you're not walking up to somewhere out of nowhere.
 
I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

I do see a difference in those situations. The main differences being the length of time and amount of thought put into meeting her. Seeing someone cute at a bar and going up to meet them is not inherantly creepy. If you saw someone cute at a bar but didn't get a chance to meet her, and then you went home and thought about her for weeks and started posting on messageboards about ways you can meet her while making it look like an accident, that is creepy.

Also, in a bar it is assumed that some people are there for such meetings and it would not seem unusual.
 
I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

Main differences are the amount of time wasted with thinking about the girl (quick seconds vs. borderline-creepy weeks?), and that the guy in the bar makes personal contact. We're humans. Personal interaction is VERY important. What's perfectly okay in a bar is totally creepy on the Interblag.


What's so hard about arranging a casual meeting with you, your buddy, her, and a couple of other people? Why does it have to be his apartment? And why only you 3 folks?
 
You guys are making it sound like I think about her every waking moment :p

Yes, I have built her up in my mind a tad, but that doesn't mean I'm constantly thinking about her. In fact after I posted the first thread about her I had forgotten about it, until I ran across her facebook page through a mutual friend. But yeah, just from reading my posts I can see how someone would come to the conclusion that I'm always thinking about this girl.
 
I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

I do see a difference in those situations. The main differences being the length of time and amount of thought put into meeting her. Seeing someone cute at a bar and going up to meet them is not inherantly creepy. If you saw someone cute at a bar but didn't get a chance to meet her, and then you went home and thought about her for weeks and started posting on messageboards about ways you can meet her while making it look like an accident, that is creepy.

Also, in a bar it is assumed that some people are there for such meetings and it would not seem unusual.

I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

Main differences are the amount of time wasted with thinking about the girl (quick seconds vs. borderline-creepy weeks?), and that the guy in the bar makes personal contact. We're humans. Personal interaction is VERY important. What's perfectly okay in a bar is totally creepy on the Interblag.


What's so hard about arranging a casual meeting with you, your buddy, her, and a couple of other people? Why does it have to be his apartment? And why only you 3 folks?

Try being an introvert with social anxiety disorder and practically no self-esteem sometime.
 
I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

I do see a difference in those situations. The main differences being the length of time and amount of thought put into meeting her. Seeing someone cute at a bar and going up to meet them is not inherantly creepy. If you saw someone cute at a bar but didn't get a chance to meet her, and then you went home and thought about her for weeks and started posting on messageboards about ways you can meet her while making it look like an accident, that is creepy.

Also, in a bar it is assumed that some people are there for such meetings and it would not seem unusual.

I don't see it as creepy, he sees a girl a girl he finds attractive and decides he wants to know her more. Is his plotting/planning that much different than the guy on the other side of a bar who sees a girl he finds cute and then goes up to her with a lame pick-up line or goes to buy her a drink?

Main differences are the amount of time wasted with thinking about the girl (quick seconds vs. borderline-creepy weeks?), and that the guy in the bar makes personal contact. We're humans. Personal interaction is VERY important. What's perfectly okay in a bar is totally creepy on the Interblag.


What's so hard about arranging a casual meeting with you, your buddy, her, and a couple of other people? Why does it have to be his apartment? And why only you 3 folks?

Try being an introvert with social anxiety disorder and practically no self-esteem sometime.

I tried that, it didn't work out for me.


You started working out, didn't you? So you know that a muscle won't grow and fat won't be burned without the exercise.
 
Try being an introvert with social anxiety disorder and practically no self-esteem sometime.

I am just that (though I don't think I have horrible self-esteem). Trust me, I don't go up to random people in bars, heck I am too nervous to even enter a bar. I met my boyfriend in college through our courses together and we got together after discussions about Star Trek on Facebook...there IS a way for introverts to meet others without coming off as creepy, though they may come off as nerdy. :lol:
 
Facebook is about social networking. This is how things are done now. It's the modern-day equivalent of seeing somebody in the bookstore and saying, "Say, aren't you Judy? I'm a friend of Bob. I saw you in that group picture he's got hanging in his apartment."
If Aldo had sent such a message with his friend request, I wouldn't think it was creepy or strange in the slightest.

Sending it now, though, kind of makes it look like he's sitting at the computer waiting for her to reply. Creepy.
Or as correcting an oversight, which it would be: "Oops, looks like I forgot to mention...."

There was a time when "I've seen you around for a while and I wanted to meet you" was not considered stalking, but rather normal Human mating behavior.
Yes, and that time is now.
For some, sure.

These are the types of behaviors that are currently fashionable.
And your source of information about this is...?
Life. Observation of behavior and conversation. Including TrekBBS. This Thread, for example. ;)
 
I think this video sums up the problem nicely:

Link (sorry, not YouTube so can't embed it)

Aldo, if she thinks you're attractive, you're probably golden no matter what you do. If she doesn't, you're probably screwed no matter what you do.

Thanks, Tom Brady!
 
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