Ncuti Gatwa is the 15th Doctor
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I mean, I think his conversation with
The 14th Doctor in the TARDIS
was to confirm that he has all of his past memories/etc, he's just free of the emotional baggage. He was making most of the old references in that conversation, after all. They've just given a way for The Doctor to no longer carry his post Time War mountain of guilt for various things, so we won't be getting any more "Hybrids" or Doctors obsessed with the (for him) relatively recent past. Thats very different from throwing his past away or not referencing it.
5 out of 12 episodes were watchable, it’s a wonder we got a year 3. Year 3 & 4 were brilliant though.
If The Doctor is Venom, Ncuti is Carnage. Almost like a son or spawn of The Doctor.
It's a smart way to reset the board for new audiences, while also keeping the OG Doctor in play.
Smart from a business perspective. Writing wise, these episodes haven't been RTD's best to say the least.
It's a smart way to reset the board for new audiences, while also keeping the OG Doctor in play.
Smart from a business perspective. Writing wise, these episodes haven't been RTD's best to say the least.
But that Rawandan saying is very appropriate for the Doctor.
I wonder if it was Ncuti's idea?
Except they worked very hard to show that they're both The Doctor. There is no "OG" Doctor, because they're both equally The Doctor. Same past, same memories, and they come from the same body. Its much more like the two Crichtons from Farscape then it is Venom/Carnage.
Didn't they always plan for one of the Crichtons to die though?
With a second Doctor, they may have given themselves an out if viewers don't buy in. One Doctor could die, or become the Watcher or Valeyard.
I'm not certain as to how I feel about this 'bi-generation' thing. One of the things about regeneration episodes is that they're big, emotional moments, where we say goodbye to the previous Doctor. Having the 14th Doctor hang around, it seems weird.
It'll be weirder if it continues with future Doctors. With Fourteen you can at least explain that he needs to relax and hang on Earth until he recovers enough to.... go back in time and become Fifteen? Send a telepathic signal to his past self to start the bi-generation? Unclear.
It feels like a very Lawrence Miles thing to do. I'm not thinking so much of Sabbath, though there are elements of that, as I am IM Foreman. Weird things can happen with Gallifreyan biodata, and regeneration is a really really really complex biological space-time event.
In-universe, the Split Regeneration thing actually works because it feeds into the mysterious nature of The Doctor's origin and retroactively explains the existence of The Curator.
It's only out-of-universe that the Split Regeneration idea creates potential issues.
It's only out-of-universe that the Split Regeneration idea creates potential issues.
At first I thought the piece at the top was a bottle opener which is about the only way I'd accept that monstrosity.
Oh they could have all kinds of possibilities for the Two Doctors, with The Valeyard or even Curator being among them. I'm just saying that they are both equally The Doctor at the start. I honestly don't know what they'll do with 14, I think that the "safest" future for him would be as The Curator, but I don't know if even RTD really knows where 14 is going, unless one of the rumored spin offs is going to star him.
I can see 14/Tennant kind of existing as a crossover Doctor, appearing in the spin offs/main show but not being the "main" Doctor of his own show again, until they decide they want to do something clever with him or Tennant gets completely done with the role (which honestly seems unlikely now that he's got the perfect excuse to return at any age).
Personally, I think the bi-regeneration thing is a one-off event that won't go forward with future Doctors. The Fourteenth Doctor will be regarded as a special case, a Doctor who chose to slow down, join a family, and live a quiet life on Earth (more or less), while his successor continued forward fighting the good fight and doing a lot of running. While I have no doubt that we might see the Fourteenth Doctor again later down the road in a special or series of specials, I think ultimately Doctor Who will always be about the newest incarnation of the Doctor and their adventures.
For now, that's Ncuti Gatwa as the Fifteenth Doctor.
For now, that's Ncuti Gatwa as the Fifteenth Doctor.
Doctor Emeritus. Sounds reasonable.
That would be an ecumenical matter
At any given time in the last hundred years, there's probably at least a few Doctors puttering around somewhere on Earth. Now there's one more. If Tennant doesn't have a contract to keep on playing the 14th Doctor regularly, for all intents and purposes, he's another past Doctor the current Doctor might possibly bump into but probably won't.
Where the current situation might affect storytelling is if there are any present-day, set-on-Earth spinoffs in the works.
"How could the Doctor let something like this Voord invasion happen?"
"You were there when we signed the Noble Protocol. The one who lives in London is retired. We can't call him for help. We have to hope another one shows up, or deal with it ourselves."
Where the current situation might affect storytelling is if there are any present-day, set-on-Earth spinoffs in the works.
"How could the Doctor let something like this Voord invasion happen?"
"You were there when we signed the Noble Protocol. The one who lives in London is retired. We can't call him for help. We have to hope another one shows up, or deal with it ourselves."
This is the problem really. Would fourteen really not lift a finger to help if Earth was in peril? "Sorry, mate. Not my problem anymore."
"Fixed point in time. I'm so, so sorry."
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