I got the impression he assaulted Colonel Telford.
My thoughts on SGU
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I got the impression he assaulted Colonel Telford.
I dont get why everyone on that ship is soo dam depressing and sad. God suck it up and live the adventure of a lifetime. I would trade places with them in a heartbeat. To explore new worlds to meet aliens, to go where no human has gone before. These guys are cry babies. Gosh i miss SG-1.
That was already revealed, he beat up Colonel Telford. It's covered in the episodes Light and Earth.
Have they revealed why? Somehow I completely missed that, I must have been on a snack run or something.
It wasn't covered why he did it, although Young apparentally felt Telford deserved it.
Of course, Young doesn't have a high opinion of Telford either.
Of course, Young doesn't have a high opinion of Telford either.
Yeah, now both of them have kicked the crap out of Telford.
Sup people! Im new here! Big Voyager fan....DS9 got my attention here and there (loved the attempt at space politics) and Beverly Crusher....I've got this throbbing feeling in my pants....can you help me?. I have read all your comments. It has given me alot to talk about and even more explaining to do.
First up, lets look at the writers...
Remi Aubuchon...aka Mr 24 or aka Mr BSG is enleague with SGU following the 2nd season shooting of this promising enterprise.
24 has a very distinctive style of flow. You see a short rafaga of Jack on his mission to save the White House, followed by a reprise of another sublet story to engage the viewer.
In SGU, alot of this method was obvious from the get-go. Brief, almost schizophrenic snippets of sublets invading the story board, almost like an infection, they are clear early on in season 1. Its almost as if the primary writer was plotting to seduce Aubuchon from the beginning. There is more than one reason though. Why do I say this? Because the format of the start of SGU is basic...even primative. We need to breathe....so lets find air.....we need light (should have been third on the list)....how do we find it?.....we need water....ok lets find that too. So you can see, we have an intensely raw survival spread on our desks, which is easy to accomodate.
Now I'm going to say something which may make you want to skip my post. I have only seen 11 episodes. Yes, guilty, I am a busy man. But in the short period of viewing of this series, I am both enthralled and enthused. Alas, I do have my gripes though, and these erks aren't the easiest to explain.
1. Young is too quick to beat on Rush.
This makes no sense, considering Rush is the main man keeping everyone alive. Is Young meant to be stupid? What franchise is dumb enough to start its gig with a numbskulled commander?
2. Insubordination is so rife, its like hanging out with your local sports team.
Having fellow soldiers arch up following a stellar excursion, an attack with which they barely escaped with their lives, and being on a ship which is new to everybody.....its puzzling that they would see this as an opportunity to reshuffle command when they have zero status on leadership - uniform or not. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
3. Half ass skill set sound off.
The lottery. What a fasade!!! Lets skip every other raw fundamental life driving force and pull names out of a hat. I woulda gone Survivor up in this byatch. Strenght, skill and wit is what I would have drawn on. Pull a challenge on each lottery winner against another set of winners to see who REALLY got what it takes.
4. Systems skitz.
Who's doing the inventory? What new and cool options are available on this alien ship? Don't let them out one by one. as needed to make the story flow. Magic stones? OMG!!! Its like getting little flashed of The Hills, while trying to learn something plausable at the same time. IT DOESN'T WORK.
5. SFA Initiative.
Nobody is putting their hands up in crisis mode. Infact nobody is being asked to raise the bar except jump through a hoop and expect to come out the other side (with plenty of information on hand before they jump). What about Scott stuck in the ice crack? How about lowering the plasma cutter to cut himself out? Jeeze! But on the wholeshot, we need to hear more about new technology that humans are adopting/adapting realtime. This could be as informative and mind-expanding as "Star Trek" was when it was let loose, even to those already up with the play on current and out-worldly technologies.
7. Waaaay to early for sex.
Scott, Chole and who's that chick with the awesome tits? Without real titty action, its a waste of time. Yay Scott likes to bone...join the crew.....but when things are hanging on a prayer (like their supplies cruitial to life) I can guarantee you that sex is the last thing on peoples minds. You don't drop your pants in a housefire do you? Honestly!
8. Greer.
I love this guy and think he's a loaded gun at the same time. Who in their right mind would give this dude this much space in circumstances like these. Its as if he's champing for a chance to vent. Does he have nothing to lose? This situation calls for calm. More characters should have sublet stories ready to go. I know Lost harped on and on and on....but in Star Trek, there was atleast 30 characters (over time) who you could put on your xmas card list.
9. Guns.
Why are these boys always locked and loaded? Subordinate soldiers should be pulling watch shifts on the gate room. Greer and Scott shouldn't be posing on the mezanine like a pair of juiced fags ready to turn some backtalker into swiss cheese. Calm the f down. We're safe...for now. Lets work through this one day at a time.
10. Destiny.
Yes it is a kickass ship. Unfortunately, its too obvious it was previously owned by other humaoids. Oh and it comes with perfectly fitting space suits as well! These writers seriously need to tell the producers to digg into their deep pockets and find some designers who are truely serious about showing the Sci-Fi community some new and supercalafrickin awesome stuff. I've got loads to share. Liquid T1000 style space suits would be a start, because those brass bottlecap suits are just killing it for me.
On a soppy "like" note though, I loved the Destiny dropping in on a star to refuel. It reminded me of the movie Sunshine. Watching "whoever" touch the surface of the sun, almost bought a tear to my eye...and watching Destiny do this was both beautiful and awe inspiring. Well done
First up, lets look at the writers...
Remi Aubuchon...aka Mr 24 or aka Mr BSG is enleague with SGU following the 2nd season shooting of this promising enterprise.
24 has a very distinctive style of flow. You see a short rafaga of Jack on his mission to save the White House, followed by a reprise of another sublet story to engage the viewer.
In SGU, alot of this method was obvious from the get-go. Brief, almost schizophrenic snippets of sublets invading the story board, almost like an infection, they are clear early on in season 1. Its almost as if the primary writer was plotting to seduce Aubuchon from the beginning. There is more than one reason though. Why do I say this? Because the format of the start of SGU is basic...even primative. We need to breathe....so lets find air.....we need light (should have been third on the list)....how do we find it?.....we need water....ok lets find that too. So you can see, we have an intensely raw survival spread on our desks, which is easy to accomodate.
Now I'm going to say something which may make you want to skip my post. I have only seen 11 episodes. Yes, guilty, I am a busy man. But in the short period of viewing of this series, I am both enthralled and enthused. Alas, I do have my gripes though, and these erks aren't the easiest to explain.
1. Young is too quick to beat on Rush.
This makes no sense, considering Rush is the main man keeping everyone alive. Is Young meant to be stupid? What franchise is dumb enough to start its gig with a numbskulled commander?
2. Insubordination is so rife, its like hanging out with your local sports team.
Having fellow soldiers arch up following a stellar excursion, an attack with which they barely escaped with their lives, and being on a ship which is new to everybody.....its puzzling that they would see this as an opportunity to reshuffle command when they have zero status on leadership - uniform or not. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
3. Half ass skill set sound off.
The lottery. What a fasade!!! Lets skip every other raw fundamental life driving force and pull names out of a hat. I woulda gone Survivor up in this byatch. Strenght, skill and wit is what I would have drawn on. Pull a challenge on each lottery winner against another set of winners to see who REALLY got what it takes.
4. Systems skitz.
Who's doing the inventory? What new and cool options are available on this alien ship? Don't let them out one by one. as needed to make the story flow. Magic stones? OMG!!! Its like getting little flashed of The Hills, while trying to learn something plausable at the same time. IT DOESN'T WORK.
5. SFA Initiative.
Nobody is putting their hands up in crisis mode. Infact nobody is being asked to raise the bar except jump through a hoop and expect to come out the other side (with plenty of information on hand before they jump). What about Scott stuck in the ice crack? How about lowering the plasma cutter to cut himself out? Jeeze! But on the wholeshot, we need to hear more about new technology that humans are adopting/adapting realtime. This could be as informative and mind-expanding as "Star Trek" was when it was let loose, even to those already up with the play on current and out-worldly technologies.
7. Waaaay to early for sex.
Scott, Chole and who's that chick with the awesome tits? Without real titty action, its a waste of time. Yay Scott likes to bone...join the crew.....but when things are hanging on a prayer (like their supplies cruitial to life) I can guarantee you that sex is the last thing on peoples minds. You don't drop your pants in a housefire do you? Honestly!
8. Greer.
I love this guy and think he's a loaded gun at the same time. Who in their right mind would give this dude this much space in circumstances like these. Its as if he's champing for a chance to vent. Does he have nothing to lose? This situation calls for calm. More characters should have sublet stories ready to go. I know Lost harped on and on and on....but in Star Trek, there was atleast 30 characters (over time) who you could put on your xmas card list.
9. Guns.
Why are these boys always locked and loaded? Subordinate soldiers should be pulling watch shifts on the gate room. Greer and Scott shouldn't be posing on the mezanine like a pair of juiced fags ready to turn some backtalker into swiss cheese. Calm the f down. We're safe...for now. Lets work through this one day at a time.
10. Destiny.
Yes it is a kickass ship. Unfortunately, its too obvious it was previously owned by other humaoids. Oh and it comes with perfectly fitting space suits as well! These writers seriously need to tell the producers to digg into their deep pockets and find some designers who are truely serious about showing the Sci-Fi community some new and supercalafrickin awesome stuff. I've got loads to share. Liquid T1000 style space suits would be a start, because those brass bottlecap suits are just killing it for me.
On a soppy "like" note though, I loved the Destiny dropping in on a star to refuel. It reminded me of the movie Sunshine. Watching "whoever" touch the surface of the sun, almost bought a tear to my eye...and watching Destiny do this was both beautiful and awe inspiring. Well done
I've been bitching about this here and on other forums for a while. We've seen that for the most part, command personnel in the Stargate program are competent and are actual leaders. Based on what we've seen of Young's leadership and military skills, there is practically no way he should be a colonel, especially not in the SGC. And he's lucky that he's shielded by writers' fiat, since he should've been removed from command during the mutiny episode.
Yeah, the stones massively hurt the show until the five episodes, where they're used logically and they don't let people have sex in other people's bodies.
Well, in the first few episodes practically everyone was in denial about the fact that they weren't going home ASAP. Then they have people step up to do stuff that mostly happens offscreen so we can get pointless drama.
Don't forget that none of them think about the long term consequences (then again, most of the crew appears to be idiots, so that's par for the course).
Greer is a character I hate to hate. He's pretty good when he's not being crazy, like the whole "sweet potato" bit, but the writers love making him crazy and doing crap that honestly make me wonder why Young depends on him so much.
Sadly, since the Ancients have been established to be super advanced humans who lived long ago, everything is conveniently designed for human use. Plus this show is being partially financed by a studio that has filled for bankruptcy, so they cut corners by reusing the space suits from Stargate Atlantis and fiddling with the helmets. Besides, TV budgets are highly restrictive, there's continuity and canon to worry about, and a thousand other things that prevent really original stuff from being implemented.
The lottery was the only fair way to minimize complaints.
But you need sex at this stage so they can stick it in the promos. The promos!
And to be honest, I can think of lots of people who would be more concerned with sex in this situation than anything important.
Greer's a guy who has some good character moments in the second half, like one time when he forced a soldier and a civilian to dig an outhouse together to encourage cooperation between military and civilians. And the episode Lost gives some good insight into the character and his backstory. Unfortunately, the writers seem to enjoy depicting him as a trigger-happy psycho, which sadly undermines the work they're doing with him.
They're on a mysterious ship and have no idea what they could run into. Seems reasonable they'd be armed all the time.
The Ancients were the original form of the human evolution, so obviously their ship and space suits are going to be human-friendly. And the show is on a budget. It's so much cheaper and easier to re-use the evil Asgard's armour than it would be to create liquid T1000 style space suits.
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@bullethead: Thanks for your insight and feedback. I didn't get into the whole Atlantis buzz that much. I guess things were getting too generic for me once SG1 had concluded. Now that SGU has come to life, and under an almost "reset" format, I found it frustrating that the writers/producers didn't do more with the concept than they did.
@The Wormhole: Again, thanks for your responses to my rant. I was a little tipsy when I went to town on the keyboard (ok perhaps more than a little). You really know people who would want to bone in a life/death situation? End of the world perhaps, but in SGU's situation, a love triangle forming in an unfamiliar space makes me wonder if these chicks would bone almost anywhere!
@The Wormhole: Again, thanks for your responses to my rant. I was a little tipsy when I went to town on the keyboard (ok perhaps more than a little). You really know people who would want to bone in a life/death situation? End of the world perhaps, but in SGU's situation, a love triangle forming in an unfamiliar space makes me wonder if these chicks would bone almost anywhere!
Yes fair enough, but once Eli and Rush had the command center (im guessing thats what it is) under control, I would have thought that lifesign indicators would have let them know if they are or are not alone. If they were under threat, the passengers would not be free to roam the ship, and nobody would be wanting to let their eyes close. Actually, they could have had an episode called "Sleep". That's a core need isn't it? Insomnia could rip the ship's morale to pieces!
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The civilians aren't free to roam the ship, though. They have people scout ahead to see what are in new sections, which compartments are open to space, and so on. We saw that in "Air," with them painting X's on doors that lead to leaking compartments, and later in "Faith," when they decided to make a big push on exploring the ship while they were swinging through the Impossible System and had enough spare power to crank the shields. Heck, last week, we found out they hadn't even come across/tried out the elevators, yet. They found those in their second week on Atlantis (well, technically, they found them immediately and assumed they were storage spaces).
I mean, Destiny is big, but it's not that big. If they all were running roughshod over the ship, someone would've wandered over to the nose before Eli and Chloe last week.
I mean, Destiny is big, but it's not that big. If they all were running roughshod over the ship, someone would've wandered over to the nose before Eli and Chloe last week.
Actually, I recently rewatched Air Part 1 & 2 and they did find an elevator. Lt. Scott never used it because he started chasing the first Kino we ever saw, but the crew knew the things existed.
People in gloomy and depressing situations will do anything to take their mind off of it, and if having sex takes their mind off being stuck on a spaceship falling apart on the ass-end of the universe, cut off from home, than they have sex.
Besides, it's not just Scott and Chloe. Dr. Park seems to be banging all the military guys. And I'm sure there's others as well.
@The Wormhole: Yes I hear you. I can't remember if Scott and Lt. Big Jugs were banging in a broom closet on the Icarus planet or Destiny. I get that Chloe is easily spooked, and feels alone with her father playing martyr. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if "I" was on Destiny, I would be more concerned about learning as much about my circumstances as possible; so I guess I'm giving a scientists perspective.
@ David CGC: You hear Cnl. Young say to the civilians in episode 2 or 3 "feel free to look around, but don't touch anything" when he orders everyone to move from the gate room. I think that was what bullethead was getting at. People got assigned quaters, and all the utilities were slowly introduced onscreen over time (showers, power plate, nursery etc). Perhaps "free to roam" was a bad way to put it. But they don't have a soldier breathing down their necks wherever they go. Plus, there's a hell of alot of work to be done.
This aside....Who thinks their repair robot looks retarded as? To me it looks like a 44gal drum with some spider legs and an arc welder bolted on the front of it haha
--also-- hope I dont get pinged for this but, how do I upload a profile photo on here? do I have to make rank or something first?
@ David CGC: You hear Cnl. Young say to the civilians in episode 2 or 3 "feel free to look around, but don't touch anything" when he orders everyone to move from the gate room. I think that was what bullethead was getting at. People got assigned quaters, and all the utilities were slowly introduced onscreen over time (showers, power plate, nursery etc). Perhaps "free to roam" was a bad way to put it. But they don't have a soldier breathing down their necks wherever they go. Plus, there's a hell of alot of work to be done.
This aside....Who thinks their repair robot looks retarded as? To me it looks like a 44gal drum with some spider legs and an arc welder bolted on the front of it haha
--also-- hope I dont get pinged for this but, how do I upload a profile photo on here? do I have to make rank or something first?
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in a bit of an off topic mention, I cannot recall, but I believe you have to post a certain number of posts first. You should have some sort of message banner type of thing at the top if your screen, on top of the navigational tree (TrekBBS>Forum Name>Topic Name) but under the websites banner itself, informing you of your status.
They were still on Icarus when they banged in the closet.
You do need a certain amount of posts. I don't remember teh exact number, though.
If memory serves, she found out she was more or less dumped by catching Scott and Chloe making out like a couple of high school kids doing something naughty in episode two or three (but I don't remember exactly which).
Yeah she did have an odd expression on her face when she caught them out. She kept her composure though which made me wonder if she was going to blow Chloe out of the water at some stage....but it never happened. A 3 way would have been awesome! haha
Has season 2 started airing yet? Can't wait to see how the Lucian Alliance get banged up or assimilated into destinys crew. Thoughts people?
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