Oh, sweet! That's great to learn! Now I highly suspect the first season will end on a cliffhanger.
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Ugh, I'm tired of cliffhangers. It's more impressive to give a story a clear ending, yet do it well enough that people are eager for more stories. Holding the back half of the story hostage to get them to come back is the easy way.
Depending on how one interprets this tweet (or whatever the hell we're calling them now) it's either been renewed for a second AND third season, or they ordered two from the outset, in which case, it's not renewed at all (yet.)
Given the way animation works, it's probably the latter. Aside from generally being more economical to order two shorter seasons up-front; they'd need at least two years lead time to start from scratch, so if they want the second season out by Q3 or 4 of '24 then they already need to have the bulk of the episodes written, recorded (at least temped) and in the animation pipeline by now. So given the ongoing strike, if they announce it for next year, that probably means it's already been recorded.
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Not trying to change your mind here, but I personally dig a good cliffhanger. When they're great, they're thrilling and unforgettable. TNG's "Best of Both Worlds" and Smallville's "Tempest" are two that come to mind. For that matter, Superman & Lois ended on a pretty awesome one this year;
I literally laughed out loud with surprise and delight when they smashed to black with Superman and Doomsday in mid-leap.
Of course, the worst danger and frustration of cliffhangers is when the show doesn't get renewed. I'm currently doing a Krypton rewatch, and enjoying the hell out of it. It's a fantastic and criminally underrated show, even better than I remembered. But I'm kind of dreading getting to the end, not only because it comes all too soon but because it leaves several never-to-be-resolved cliffhangers, thanks to the cancel-happy folks at Syfy.
I think 'Krypton' was mostly a victim of poor marketing. It was sold as "a prequel about Superman's grandfather", to which most people shrugged "why would I care about that?". When what they should have done is marketed it for what it actually was, which is an Elseworlds style story about a universe facing a future without Superman.Of course, the worst danger and frustration of cliffhangers is when the show doesn't get renewed. I'm currently doing a Krypton rewatch, and enjoying the hell out of it. It's a fantastic and criminally underrated show, even better than I remembered. But I'm kind of dreading getting to the end, not only because it comes all too soon but because it leaves several never-to-be-resolved cliffhangers, thanks to the cancel-happy folks at Syfy.
I get the sense that someone probably had the bright idea of saving the twist reveal of what's really going on for the season 1 finale, forgetting that you actually have to convince people to stick around that long first! Honestly I think they were lucky to get the second season at all.
There can be good ones, of course, but like anything else, the trope is often overused. Particularly these days, when serialization is so trendy that you don't see a lot of good, solid endings anymore.
And my tolerance for cliffhangers goes down in proportion to how long I have to wait for the resolution. If it's just 3-4 months over the summer, that's one thing, but these days, you tend to get nearly a year between seasons, if not longer, and that was before the strike. I feel that if there's a long gap, then the installment preceding it should have more resolution; if there's a cliffhanger aspect, it should be more "This story is resolved but it points toward more problems going forward," like DS9's "Call to Arms" or Prodigy's "A Moral Star, Part 2," rather than "The story is only half over but you'll have to wait really long to see the rest."
Hunh -- I thought that was quite a bad cliffhanger, on a bad finale. https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/superman-lois-season-3.313306/page-20#post-14537189
It seemed incongruous to pivot to a big action finale on what's mostly a dramatic show, especially when it came pretty much out of nowhere and wasn't grounded in character. Doomsday has always been a boring foe because he's just mindless brute force. And it was my least favorite kind of cliffhanger, just randomly stopping in the middle of the fight rather than feeling like an actual climax.
Of course, the worst danger and frustration of cliffhangers is when the show doesn't get renewed. I'm currently doing a Krypton rewatch, and enjoying the hell out of it. It's a fantastic and criminally underrated show, even better than I remembered. But I'm kind of dreading getting to the end, not only because it comes all too soon but because it leaves several never-to-be-resolved cliffhangers, thanks to the cancel-happy folks at Syfy.
I agree that Krypton was underrated, and that it's a shame it didn't get a resolution. But Syfy didn't cancel shows any more often than any other network does. It's always been more common for shows to fail than succeed. It's just that Syfy (like FOX) aired more shows that genre fans cared strongly about, so it hurt more when they were cancelled, even though they weren't cancelled any more frequently than shows on any other network.
As soon as Lobo showed up, I gave up on Krypton.
Huh. Lobo is far from my favorite character, but I thought he was handled well enough there. In any case, it would have taken a lot more than a single unappealing character to make me bail on the series.
I meant in the movies.
You didn't say that, and Christopher's post you were replying to didn't say that, and The CW's "Crisis" adaptation did precede the Marvel movies that used the same concept so if anybody was "following suit" it was Marvel, and ....
Yeah, I think "False" still works.
It wasn't just him. I felt the writing went down in quality in season 2. Lobo was just the last straw.
Oh, I forgot to comment on the episode. Weird to see a universe where Vicki Vale is bigger than Lois Lane, though it certainly wasn't a flattering portrayal of Vicki. The story takes advantage of Superman's newness, both with Clark being overworked by his new super-hearing and the public losing faith in him. I'm not crazy about Lois having her own doubts in the wake of last week's multiverse story.
Looks like the toned-down-for-kids version of Task Force X is controlled with shock collars rather than bombs in their heads. You know, that actually seems like a more sensible approach, since you don't throw away a potentially useful team member the first time they misbehave.
It's wild how totally social media has changed the way stories are told, with Lois & Jimmy getting up-to-the-moment updates on Superman's actions anywhere in the city. Kind of makes super-hearing seem less exceptional.
Looks like the toned-down-for-kids version of Task Force X is controlled with shock collars rather than bombs in their heads. You know, that actually seems like a more sensible approach, since you don't throw away a potentially useful team member the first time they misbehave.
It's wild how totally social media has changed the way stories are told, with Lois & Jimmy getting up-to-the-moment updates on Superman's actions anywhere in the city. Kind of makes super-hearing seem less exceptional.
All I was thinking while watching this episode is that Karl Urban should voice their Batman.
Is there a specific reason for that I'm not seeing?
Wow, this Vicki Vale is a bitch!
Poor Clark, running himself ragged trying to handle everything he can hear!
I am more and more convinced that the General is Lois' dad.
Poor Clark, running himself ragged trying to handle everything he can hear!
I am more and more convinced that the General is Lois' dad.
Urban is the lead (anti-hero) on Amazon Prime's The Boys, which Jack Quaid co-stars.
I'm sure they'll get to Bruce eventually . . .That's all assuming they have access to the character; not sure if things at WB are still restrictive in that regard.
But yeah, him and probably Diana, Barry, Kara, Michael Ironside etc. etc. But that's likely to be more of a season 3/4 thing. I like how they're keeping the scope of this show reasonably contained to the extent they're even drawing out the whole Krypton/Jor'El of it all.
Apropos of nothing; I honestly appreciate how this show can take perennial villain characters like Monsieur Mallah & Brain and make them both sympathetic and oddly wholesome.
But yeah, him and probably Diana, Barry, Kara, Michael Ironside etc. etc. But that's likely to be more of a season 3/4 thing. I like how they're keeping the scope of this show reasonably contained to the extent they're even drawing out the whole Krypton/Jor'El of it all.
Apropos of nothing; I honestly appreciate how this show can take perennial villain characters like Monsieur Mallah & Brain and make them both sympathetic and oddly wholesome.
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