More LCARS 24 schematics
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Isn't continuity fun?Especially Star Trek continuity?
Makes me glad I don't have to answer to anyone for my own stuff.
Hm. After so easily modifying the Saladin to create a Ptolemy, I got a bit carried away and thought maybe I could modify my Intrepid figure to create a Yeager, assuming it's a makeshift Dominion War combat vessel built mostly from rejected Intrepid prototypes and other shipyard surplus (configuration varies), basically a heavily armed fighter carrier. A quick "kitbash" of my Intrepid drawing, but maybe good enough:
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Here's the engine correction for Saladin and Ptolemy:
Well, I'm already straying from canon with Luna, Daedalus, Saladin, and Ptolemy. But feel free to copy the Ptolemy and turn it into whatever you like. Or, better yet, use Vance's toolkit.
I dig the way you interpret the ribbed fore and aft surfaces of those vertical "fins" as rolling doors for shuttlebays. But wouldn't those be awfully narrow bays? Even with the fighter wings folded?
Perhaps the ship ought to carry the fighters in the main body of the secondary hull, and just some narrow standard shuttles in the fins?
Timo Saloniemi
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Hm. After so easily modifying the Saladin to create a Ptolemy, I got a bit carried away and thought maybe I could modify my Intrepid figure to create a Yeager, assuming it's a makeshift Dominion War combat vessel built mostly from rejected Intrepid prototypes and other shipyard surplus (configuration varies), basically a heavily armed fighter carrier. A quick "kitbash" of my Intrepid drawing, but maybe good enough:
Is that a propeller at the end of the nacelle?
Well, the Cardasian that feeds me info from the 24th century said the Yeager carried fighters and that those were the doors. I never have the opportunity to argue with him, given the time differential. Maybe he was pulling my leg or just leaving out some explanation.
Well, the thing is that these are for the library files of my LCARS system, which only makes 800 x 600 screen displays. I'd have draw the compenents in a smaller size to do a Larson and Loknar, and I do these things in MS Paint, for maximum display clarity, with the antialiasing done by my LCARS software. And I was trying to limit it to canon ships, even though I may have strayed from that a little, since I'm running low on ships to cover. Maybe I will end up doing some ships of the Fanon Aeronautics and Space Administration, though.
Is that a propeller at the end of the nacelle?
That's a question for Doug Drexler. I just put in what I saw on his Voyager MSD. Maybe I should have changed it for the Yeager. He didn't show a Bussard collector, either.
Anyway, the finished Saladin and Ptolemy schematics are here, with MAIN SENSOR instead of MAIN DEFLECTOR and the engine looking more like Scotty's "bairns":
http://lcars24.com/schem67.html
http://lcars24.com/schem68.html
And I added the outboard torp launchers (sans probe launchers) visible on the $10,200 Yeager model, and it came out like this, ugly and scary enough to make the Jem'Hadar go into ketracel shock and dirty their diapers:
I also thought I should try to make a better version of the Excelsior refit to replace my old one:
There also seem to be four wide shuttlebay doors on the Yeager model. So I should show those, labeled as fighter doors, and only show fighters in that area, leaving the narrowest doors for narrower craft:
And here's the revised Ent B:
And here's the revised Ent B:
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Are those actually shuttle/fighter bays though, or might they be interpreted as another component since the torpedo launcher is right in the middle? They just seem a bit small IMO for that function.
Granted, the Yeager is basically a Maquis ship with some Intrepid components mounted on it anyway...
Granted, the Yeager is basically a Maquis ship with some Intrepid components mounted on it anyway...
If the Yeager is to Intrepid what the Miranda is to Constitution, then it would be nice to have those ribbed beige squares in the aft corners of the secondary hull (next to the yellow thingamabobs) be twin shuttlebays.
And if they are shuttlebays, then beige ribbing should probably indicate rolling doors elsewhere, too. Although the fins going up and down from the secondary hull stern need not be shuttlebays even if they have rolling doors. They might be mine deployment doors instead, if we're to think this is a warship and for that reason goes unseen in peacetime. That'd go better with the small size and weird shape of the fins and their doors.
The fact that the fins have forward doors as well would seem to rule against mine deployment, though. Although since those doors are so acutely slanted, it might be quite easy to sow mines simultaneously up and down (from the fwd doors) and directly aft (from the aft doors), which is what you'd want to be doing in 3D space anyway!
Apparently, those fins have never exhibited any engine glow in any incarnation of the Maquis model. In the small "Ro craft" from "Preemptive Strike", all the glow was in the lateral twin "cheat lines" that here are colored turquoise (they glowed yellow for the aft "impulse" bits and blue for the forward-side "warp" bits). Neither the fins nor the blockier things outboard of those (removed from the Yeager) glowed at all.
In the larger "Eddington ship" of "For the Uniform", it was the same thing, although the "impulse" glow was red rather than yellow. This remained true in the reuse of that model as the "Chakotay ship" in "Caretaker".
Timo Saloniemi
And if they are shuttlebays, then beige ribbing should probably indicate rolling doors elsewhere, too. Although the fins going up and down from the secondary hull stern need not be shuttlebays even if they have rolling doors. They might be mine deployment doors instead, if we're to think this is a warship and for that reason goes unseen in peacetime. That'd go better with the small size and weird shape of the fins and their doors.
The fact that the fins have forward doors as well would seem to rule against mine deployment, though. Although since those doors are so acutely slanted, it might be quite easy to sow mines simultaneously up and down (from the fwd doors) and directly aft (from the aft doors), which is what you'd want to be doing in 3D space anyway!
Apparently, those fins have never exhibited any engine glow in any incarnation of the Maquis model. In the small "Ro craft" from "Preemptive Strike", all the glow was in the lateral twin "cheat lines" that here are colored turquoise (they glowed yellow for the aft "impulse" bits and blue for the forward-side "warp" bits). Neither the fins nor the blockier things outboard of those (removed from the Yeager) glowed at all.
In the larger "Eddington ship" of "For the Uniform", it was the same thing, although the "impulse" glow was red rather than yellow. This remained true in the reuse of that model as the "Chakotay ship" in "Caretaker".
Timo Saloniemi
I was thinking I could put big, honkin' impluse engines in the fins, show more engineering decks and the rest of the warp core where the rightmost fighter is in the above figure, and open up the shuttlebay to near the main deflector, filled with fighters and shuttles. What Timo mentioned could be aft doors, which are pretty wide, but those big rectangles port and starboard in the upper photo could be side doors, which certainly look wide enough for fighters with wings spread. So it could have four doors for very quick scramble.
I asked about fighters in the Yeager on Drex Files a few days ago, but the thread is nearly a year old, and I haven't gotten any response. Anyway, it has some great pictures of the model:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/deep-space-deep-background-uss-yeager/
The Argo shuttle is down to finishing touches. So is the Aeon, but I have to give that one some more thought.
I asked about fighters in the Yeager on Drex Files a few days ago, but the thread is nearly a year old, and I haven't gotten any response. Anyway, it has some great pictures of the model:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/deep-space-deep-background-uss-yeager/
The Argo shuttle is down to finishing touches. So is the Aeon, but I have to give that one some more thought.
Here's this one from NEM:
And this little hotrod:
Thanks. Well, even though they're for my LCARS system software, they're also on my Web site for everyone to see. I haven't made thumbnails for the last five yet, but they'll be up soon enough. But there are 71 Trek schematics so far and 11 of real space hardware in the same style. And Cyngus has an LCARS 24 section, as well--same schematics blown up to a larger size.
