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[STEPhon IT]

I think we really dodged a bullet here. The only possible positive thing I can imagine with this idea is that it probably wouldn't involve a vengeful bad guy planning to destroy the Federation.

Agreed. Also, I dislike the continuing parallels of these JJmovies aping off of the elements from TOS. Into Darkness had Khan, Star Trek II had Khan, Beyond destroyed the Enterprise, and guess what??? The horrible TSFS had the ship blow up. Now comes the 4th movie and it has to be time travel. Yawn.

 

[M'Sharak]

Because QT?
Terrible. I guess testing the idea of no bad press to the limit.

What bad press?

I'm thinking that the allusion here may be to "There is no such thing as bad publicity" -- an assertion commonly attributed to P.T. Barnum (though evidence that Barnum ever actually said it remains elusive.)

The phrase 'There is no such thing as bad publicity' - meaning and origin. (phrases.org.uk)

Related:
Succès de scandale - Wikipedia

 

[ChristopherPike]

Mixed feelings. Not what I thought QT might do with Star Trek, particularly after Once Upon a Time in Hollywood had a more mature Twilight Zone drama thing going on. It's stereotypical stuff for the filmmaker isn't it? To be honest knowing he's such a film buff of all kinds and not just trashy cinema, I thought this might be the homage to golden age sci-fi he'd always wanted to make. You know, in the way he's already done crime and western numerous times, even romance in Jackie Brown. Horror in a way with Dawn til Dusk. Or suspense shocker with Death Proof. So his work is more varied than just criminals having a bloody showdown by the last reel. There's one genre of film left to do for his 10th and supposedly final. What would a QT film involving space travel look like? We know he's loves cult TV and I would hope Star Trek appealed to him on some level we've never seen from him before. Once Upon a Time was very different, and even with the ultra violent comedy fight you knew very well was coming.

This would just be a cross between Reservoir Dogs and A Piece of the Action. Doesn't feel enough to me. But if it happened, a so-so QT film would still be in a class by itself. If it were more honestly Star Trek, rather than Star Trek does pastiche Nazis, Romans, Gangsters etc. As fun as those are being "light" episodes that are a diversion from the "serious" norm.

 

[STEPhon IT]

Is it possible the powers who are at Viacom/ Bad Robot wanted Time travel from the start and offered options for writers and directors to figure out a storyline to compliment what they wanted? There was an idea where Kirk would rejoin with his father for a movie idea.

 

[ChristopherPike]

I have a recollection of somebody posting what they said was QT's story here somewhere. It didn't go down well. I think everybody thought it was a joke, or some fan fiction riffing off Pulp Fiction out of sequence storytelling. Which of course, it in all probability it was.

It seemed to mix Star Trek Generations nexus and Kirk's fate. The opening scene begins with presumably gangsters who are holding Kirk, Spock and McCoy prisoner. Somehow they are able to show each a glimpse of their own futures. My memory is a bit sketchy after that, but Kirk's is obviously some restaging of his death on Veridian III, and the way they wanted Shatner involved. It seems plausible looking back now, as QT readily admitted he really didn't get that whole Kelvin universe set-up and how Shatner-Kirk's ultimate fate isn't necessarily Pine-Kirk's.

 

[Khan 2.0]

I have a recollection of somebody posting what they said was QT's story here somewhere. It didn't go down well. I think everybody thought it was a joke, or some fan fiction riffing off Pulp Fiction out of sequence storytelling. Which of course, it in all probability it was.

It seemed to mix Star Trek Generations nexus and Kirk's fate. The opening scene begins with presumably gangsters who are holding Kirk, Spock and McCoy prisoner. Somehow they are able to show each a glimpse of their own futures. My memory is a bit sketchy after that, but Kirk's is obviously some restaging of his death on Veridian III, and the way they wanted Shatner involved. It seems plausible looking back now, as QT readily admitted he really didn't get that whole Kelvin universe set-up and how Shatner-Kirk's ultimate fate isn't necessarily Pine-Kirk's.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/leaked-tarantino-script-summary.299524

 

[ChristopherPike]

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/leaked-tarantino-script-summary.299524

Yeah, clearly fan-fiction. It meanders about, doesn't make much sense in places and is somewhere between a convoluted reconstruction and a clipshow.

 

[Captain Robau]

Is it just me, or does this seem like Tarantino just wanted to do a gangster movie, full of his usual flare, but do it in the Star Trek universe? I mean, if I want good gangster movies, several have been made and I can watch them. If I'm going to see a Star Trek movie, I want to see science fiction and not the same stuff I can get off Netflix. The Tarantino movie would have been 10 to 15% Star Trek, and the rest some gangster movie that Tarantino wanted to make. I'm all good with the gore and swearing, but it would just be nice to have it set in the larger trek universe and not feel like 1930's earth.

 

[fireproof78]

Is it just me, or does this seem like Tarantino just wanted to do a gangster movie, full of his usual flare, but do it in the Star Trek universe?

Yeah, that's exactly what it seems like. It would be a Tarantino movie with a Star Trek veneer. I'd rather he makes a film about gangsters rather than trying to stuff a gangster film inside a Star Trek suit.

 

[saddestmoon]

Yep, I’m now hard-passing on Tarantino Trek.

 

[M'Sharak]

It's dead, Jim.

While the film never materialized, with Tarantino confirming earlier this year that the project was dead...

[ ... ]

While the Tarantino / Smith project is no longer in the works...

Writer Mark L. Smith Talks Tarantino Trek – TrekToday

 

[JaxsBrokenHeart]

Its a moot point given the project is essentially never happening, but honestly my biggest objection would be that QT feels like someone that excels with his own characters. They may be pastches of notable ones in film he's seen, but they're still distinctly his own and going in their own direction. Tarantino doing his take on science fiction with a wholly original crew/setting would be a lot more exciting to me that trying to merge his preferred narrative with established figures.

 

[nedski]

I liked almost everything Tarantino directed... excepting Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - film which I don't really understand why would he make such a film....
Also in Inglorious Basterds he kinda spoiled the end by making Christoph Waltz naive. Christoph who played his role in an excellent manner till the end - where they totally ruined his way of behaving (from the entire movie).
However someone got an Oscar in both movies....
A Star Trek movie directed by Tarantino sounds well, as long he will keep some existing guidelines of course adding something from his "style".

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[Rusty0918]

Well, if the Tarantino project went ahead, who knows what would happen? If there's ANYTHING, and I say again ANYTHING I've learned, the darndest things can happen. For all we know, it may be praised as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Don't jump to conclusions.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, if the Tarantino project went ahead, who knows what would happen? If there's ANYTHING, and I say again ANYTHING I've learned, the darndest things can happen. For all we know, it may be praised as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Don't jump to conclusions.

It would be praised. Because Tarantino. What I find extremely amusing is the reports of violence and swearing which has been routinely condemned in Abrams and Kurtzman Trek as not being real Trek.

 

[Rusty0918]

It would be praised. Because Tarantino. What I find extremely amusing is the reports of violence and swearing which has been routinely condemned in Abrams and Kurtzman Trek as not being real Trek.

Well, slamming the cussing isn't really going to help, because it's been done in Discovery and Picard.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Star Trek as R rated. QT whatever he wants. Swearing and violence in Trek more than ever. Should be fun with a family friendly franchise like Star Trek...

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As I said above, the film itself sounds uninteresting but the fallout and news would be entertaining for years.

Who the almighty frak said Star Trek has to be 'family friendly' all of the time?

 

[fireproof78]

Well, slamming the cussing isn't really going to help, because it's been done in Discovery and Picard.

And The Search for Spock, and The Voyage Home, Generations, ST 09, etc. But, it's still an issue because...

...reasons.

Who the almighty frak said Star Trek has to be 'family friendly' all of the time?

Top men.

 

[Rusty0918]

And The Search for Spock, and The Voyage Home, Generations, ST 09, etc. But, it's still an issue because...

...reasons.
Top men.

Yeah but DSC was the first one to actually use the F-bomb. And it's been used in Picard.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah but DSC was the first one to actually use the F-bomb. And it's been used in Picard.

If iteration of Trek has pushed the limits. From damn, to bastard, to shit to fuck. It's not that big of a stretch to realize where Trek would go next.

And, even with that, there was a huge dust up over "Fucking cool" in Discovery and "Sheer Fucking Hubris" in Picard (though there were other uses). But, Tarantino is known for utilizing it as he can. So, again, is there going to be an outcry over Tarantino's use or does he get a pass because "Tarantino?"