Michelle Paradise: Seasons 3 and 4 covered rebuilding Federation arc; seasons 5 onward = new

[FederationHistorian]

One of your big ideas is to bring Enterprise, the unprofitable black sheep of the Star Trek family back so...

If the shoe fits, wear it.

There's nothing wrong with a bit of pie in the sky, but if you're gonna put ideas put there that are both unprofitable and unrealistic then you can hardly complain when people reach the conclusions that they do.

Ahem…

Where you rank ENT:

1. TOS/TAS
2. DSC
3. ENT
4. PIC
5. DS9
6. LDS
7. TNG
8. VOY
9. SNW

And where I rank ENT:

1. DS9
2. LD
3. TNG
4. TOS/TAS
5. VOY
6. ENT
7. SNW
8. PIC
9. ST
10. PRO
11. DIS

Who wants to bring back Enterprise again?

I’d just make a completely new show if I was going to use the entire ENT cast again. I’m sure that everyone that worked to the show and all the ENT fans that watch the show at the very least would agree with me on that point.

Also, I’m not sure what ENT has to do with DS9 anyways? Since DS9 was a more popular show than ENT, with far more popular characters,and never had the same issues with drawing an audience like ENT did. And CBS Studios hasn’t greenlit any spinoff show related to that either, and I’m having increasing doubts that they will.

All untrue and it requires quite an ignorant reading of the show to come that conclusion. DSC does low-stakes, medium stakes and filler all within a larger high-stakes arc that spreads over the season. It's done that in every season.

Or maybe as some who has watched the show and paid attention to arcs like pursuit of the Burn data and Grey’s arc in general, its never comes across like that to me at all that there are low stakes or medium stakes arcs. Not sure how that make me “ignorant”. Especially when my point was DIS never has a full season that's low stakes or medium stakes, or a medium stakes story that is the peak level for crises for the season. Its always high stakes or bust.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

@FederationHistorian

First of all, I think I'd like to dial back a little bit, as I think my post was much too confrontational and I apologise for that.

Moving on though:

Where you rank ENT:

What does liking something have to do with wanting it to come back? Especially on a shifting list of favourites. I'd rank TOS as my No. 1 Trek show but I neither want nor expect it to come back. Similarly I like ENT, but I'm happy for it to be where it is.

Or maybe as some who has watched the show and paid attention to arcs like pursuit of the Burn data and Grey’s arc in general, its never comes across like that to me at all that there are low stakes or medium stakes arcs. Not sure how that make me “ignorant”. Especially when my point was DIS never has a full season that's low stakes or medium stakes, or a medium stakes story that is the peak level for crises for the season. Its always high stakes or bust.

Again, just to dial back any aggression, 'cause there are better things to fight about than Star Trek. I said it requires an ignorant reading, not that you yourself are ignorant. YMMV on where the distinction is, but it wasn't my intention to say that.

But if DSC doesn't tell low stakes stories then where do you figure in Mudd getting revenge on Lorca? Or Michael and Spock fixing their relationship? Or Culber getting over disassociation with his newly minted body? Or the Adira/Grey plot? Or Mirror-Georgiou's multiple episode redemption story? Or Zora developing consciousness? Or the Michael/Book romance?

All were minor-medium level plots that were tangential to the larger overarching threat and yet were framed within it. Every moment of every episode is not geared towards the end of the universe.