Mental Wellness Support Group

[rhubarbodendron]

Feels weird, doesn't it? One gets so used to other people. But on the other hand, there's always the chance to get used to new people which isn't all that bad either

I am both over logical and over emotional.

Logic is something one quickly loses when posting on this board

I have an autistic colleague who can't express any feelings at all (I haven't found out yet if he has any - how do you ask a blind man if he dreams in black and white or in colour?). In comparism, you're propably on the lucky side. Plus: you really have a talent for writing. Have you thought of using it to make a living? I imagine you'd be an excellent librarian (not in the Diskworld-ly sense, of course!). What I mean is: a librarian must know about writing styles and quality but he must also be able to judge people so as to make recommendations. Plus: a library is a peaceful and quiet working space (unless it's the lib of a school or university, unseen or visible) and people who like books - i.e. the customers - are usually very friendly. And the job would leave you enough time to write a bit.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

That was touching and well written, quite visual. I have an American friend from San Francisco we visited a while back. I recall it was such a windy day and she wanted to take us to see the redwoods (which we did and even got to see a banana slug of all things) and of course the bridge. I just remember opening the car door and it almost slamming by the force of the wind. It was one of those crazy moments where you just laugh because you are IN the moment. Then of course there is Tuvok, my favourite of all Trek characters. So your story was even better for me

Thank you so much, you have no idea how much I appreaicte the feedback, Tuvok is right up threre for me with Spock and Data, sometimes I think I love him even more then them, they always tried to say, he was just a black Spock, but he was so much more.

It's Thanksgiving Day in the U.S., and while I was enjoying the bountiful feast at home earlier, with two turkeys, a baked ham, several pies, etc., for now I just feel like I want to be left alone in my room. It's funny how I may come off as moody and aloof during holiday gatherings, but I need some "me" time - working out on my elliptical, taking a nap, watching Netflix, etc. while the rest of the family celebrate and take thousands of pictures.

I guess I am feeling moody this evening. One of my sisters invited her boyfriend to Thanksgiving dinner, whom I don't care to interact with. The requisite family picture time has been overdone, and the older I get, the more I dislike seeing my ugly pictures posted on social networking sites.

But at least I'm thankful for the much needed rain out here in California, and all the smoke finally dissipated.

Oh, and my blood sugar, after a 40-minute workout, was in the 240s.

I am diabetic too, so I understand the stress from that, and the need to be left alone, while still sometimes wanting to be alone and yet not alone. I am finding though the only way I can face the world, is forgetting what others find normal, and finding my own journey... I try to look to the stars and realize, those on our favorite Star Ships did not live as we live now, so why not find a way that works for us, that could make Gene proud. I am in cali too, so I know what you mean about the smoke. Thank you all for welcoming my posts, I value you all so very much.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

Feels weird, doesn't it? One gets so used to other people. But on the other hand, there's always the chance to get used to new people which isn't all that bad either

Logic is something one quickly loses when posting on this board

I have an autistic colleague who can't express any feelings at all (I haven't found out yet if he has
any - how do you ask a blind man if he dreams in black and white or in colour?). In comparism, you're propably on the lucky side. Plus: you really have a talent for writing. Have you thought of using it to make a living? I imagine you'd be an excellent librarian (not in the Diskworld-ly sense, of course!). What I mean is: a librarian must know about writing styles and quality but he must also be able to judge people so as to make recommendations. Plus: a library is a peaceful and quiet working space (unless it's the lib of a school or university, unseen or visible) and people who like books - i.e. the customers - are usually very friendly. And the job would leave you enough time to write a bit.

Thank you for the suggestion, I am in the process of trying to use my artistic talents to make a living, as I have had jobs in the public, ones I liked. I loved being about to give advice, but then when it came to dealing with other kinds of people, it made it too hard for me to function sadly. I don't do well with face to face contact, or even verbal, I love to talk, I love to be heard, but i never know how to act when I am listening. I listen and hear every word, almost making a record of it like data, but being able to interact with others, well unless they take the time to understand my programming it doesn't happen too much. I am very lucky though to feel, to quote Data, I would rather feel anguish and agony constantly, if it meant for just one moment I could enjoy the taste of my beverage, or feel happiness or joy. Well, I may have paraphrased that, but its a good line And it is nice to have a place finally appreciate my only skills. Qapla!

 

[RassDavadCaras]

IT is amazing how good I felt this morning, like I found a home... I wish you all the best, I wont be around the forums any longer. While you all are fantastic, the rest of the site is no different from any other. No matter what Trek taught, a lot of fans did not pay attention. Live long and Prosper my friends, it was nice to feel at home, if only for a short time.

 

[rhubarbodendron]

hold on! check your PMs. I know of several boards you will be as welcome as you are here, without any unpleasant "rest of the site". They might be worth a try

 

[Refuge]

IT is amazing how good I felt this morning, like I found a home... I wish you all the best, I wont be around the forums any longer. While you all are fantastic, the rest of the site is no different from any other. No matter what Trek taught, a lot of fans did not pay attention. Live long and Prosper my friends, it was nice to feel at home, if only for a short time.

One understands. It was nice crossing paths

 

[rhubarbodendron]

It appears there was some criticism about post length and number over at TNZ. I'd call the whole thing a mutual misunderstanding and hit the restart button.
Try to be a little less excited (easier said than done, I know). Remember that you have years to post here. Many of us have been here for more than a decade. Take your time, think of what you'd like to say and give people the gist. An opportunity to go into greater detail will always offer itself in the course of the discussion. If you make many posts in a row people will feel left out. They might believe you aren't interested in their opinion but just want to rant. As you want a dialogue, that'd be counterproductive.

Btw, if you actually feel like ranting: we have a special thread for exactly that purpose. It helps a lot to let off steam there https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/things-that-frustrate-us-all.254815/

 

[RassDavadCaras]

I do not want to rant, I just do not start conversations well, so I thought I could use my art to do so. No one here acted out of sorts, it was the mods insisted on giving advice, even when I told them it did not apply to what was going on. I was happy to be given help, but they were not there to help, there was no reason for their actions. I am happy to take my time, and I do find your advice helpful, you see the issue I have and are trying to help me connect better. The mods in the other forum were not doing that, they would say it was self-promotion then not bother to read the explanation so they could truly help. I kept just trying to get hem to hear my side, but they only wanted to tell theirs. Maybe I was wrong and needed advice, but they went about it selfishly and arrogantly, you have tried to provide real help and do so out of caring, they just wanted to be right.

 

[Refuge]

I do not want to rant, I just do not start conversations well, so I thought I could use my art to do so. No one here acted out of sorts, it was the mods insisted on giving advice, even when I told them it did not apply to what was going on. I was happy to be given help, but they were not there to help, there was no reason for their actions. I am happy to take my time, and I do find your advice helpful, you see the issue I have and are trying to help me connect better. The mods in the other forum were not doing that, they would say it was self-promotion then not bother to read the explanation so they could truly help. I kept just trying to get hem to hear my side, but they only wanted to tell theirs. Maybe I was wrong and needed advice, but they went about it selfishly and arrogantly, you have tried to provide real help and do so out of caring, they just wanted to be right.

I don't know what to say and there is much I can't anyway. If the mods are doing their moderating thing then that is just the way it is, one can only hope they treat you as they would others. These forums have their rules and the tone is not always set strictly by those. I didn't realise one couldn't post more than two things in a row until being here for a couple of months, lol. There is a settling in learning curve we all go through and it is curious how it seems to be an issue for some. However some people naturally write longer posts. If you are not running more than two in a row but the two you do write are within the length the window accepts that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

I don't know what to say and there is much I can't anyway. If the mods are doing their moderating thing then that is just the way it is, one can only hope they treat you as they would others. These forums have their rules and the tone is not always set strictly by those. I didn't realise one couldn't post more than two things in a row until being here for a couple of months, lol. There is a settling in learning curve we all go through and it is curious how it seems to be an issue for some. However some people naturally write longer posts. If you are not running more than two in a row but the two you do write are within the length the window accepts that shouldn't be a problem.

That is what I thought too, and I read the rules, and as far as I could tell I broke none... They may have been trying to help, but what if there was nothing to help other than to say, hey it looks like your trying to reach a certain audience here is a good place to do it.

 

[Refuge]

Well I'm not sure if you still want to stick around Rass. I've only read you here in this thread and you have contributed positively and informatively in my opinion! However, it's not a bad mindset to be able to take or leave a social norm or platform like this, it has its place but mostly it's not to be taken too seriously. Of course there are rules and convention but these boards don't define you and other people don't either, that is giving away too much power. So if you do stay this thread is a safe place.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

Well I'm not sure if you still want to stick around Rass. I've only read you here in this thread and you have contributed positively and informatively in my opinion! However, it's not a bad mindset to be able to take or leave a social norm or platform like this, it has its place but mostly it's not to be taken too seriously. Of course there are rules and convention but these boards don't define you and other people don't either, that is giving away too much power. So if you do stay this thread is a safe place.

People like you are the reason I joined, kindness, acceptace, I can take be treated badly, but acting as if I broke the rules, when they were mods and no one saw an issue with it. It just sucks, because I have no one... I came here because I am so sick of being alone, of not finding someone that relates to me so that I can relate to them.

 

[Refuge]

People like you are the reason I joined, kindness, acceptace, I can take be treated badly, but acting as if I broke the rules, when they were mods and no one saw an issue with it. It just sucks, because I have no one... I came here because I am so sick of being alone, of not finding someone that relates to me so that I can relate to them.

It's mutual kiddo. I'm not always um ... 'liked' so thank you for the kind words.

Just thinking about cats. Yep I've gone there again. I LOVE my cat and this past weekend we rushed her to the emergency. I really thought I'd lost her. It was awful leaving her there and coming home to an empty house. She's all right I think. That is almost six hundred dollars later they found some ulcers on her tongue. She's an older cat if 13 is old for a cat. I'm finding it really hard to get her to eat. Seriously thinking of picking up some KFC to take home for her dinner.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

My little girl is my only friend, the only one who cares about me, shes the only one who notices when I am hiding my pain, shes the only one who loves me no matter what, my own little spot. I am so sorry Refuge, my cat loves steak cut into tiny tiny pices, maybe pinching it up really small and mixing ing some gravy would get her to eat, make her own special wet food deluxe dinner! I hope it goes well, you should be liked, your kind, if you are not always liked, that says something sad about Trek fans. I thought they would be the kind of people Gene wanted us to be, atleast some of us listened.

 

[Doom Shepherd]

It’s like watching a minnow approach what you know is just the tip of the deep sea fangly fish’s lure...

 

[TribbleFeeder]

People can be a little harsh here sometimes, I’ve experienced it too. We’re part of a community that’s been well established for a long time and sometimes this happens with new members. I think it’s usually a miscommunication thing.

I’m so sorry if anyone made you feel uncomfortable. We all want you here, and I hope you truly know that.

I’m really sensitive and I frequently get upset about disagreements I have with other members. It affects me in a very personal way. You’re not alone.

Please stick around. There is so much about this community that is wonderful and good. I think you would be a great addition to TBBS and it would be great to see you around.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I do not want to rant, I just do not start conversations well, so I thought I could use my art to do so. No one here acted out of sorts, it was the mods insisted on giving advice, even when I told them it did not apply to what was going on. I was happy to be given help, but they were not there to help, there was no reason for their actions. I am happy to take my time, and I do find your advice helpful, you see the issue I have and are trying to help me connect better. The mods in the other forum were not doing that, they would say it was self-promotion then not bother to read the explanation so they could truly help. I kept just trying to get hem to hear my side, but they only wanted to tell theirs. Maybe I was wrong and needed advice, but they went about it selfishly and arrogantly, you have tried to provide real help and do so out of caring, they just wanted to be right.

Rass, I was hesitant to say anything and was just going to let this slide previously, since as the above passage demonstrates, you don't react well to friendly moderator advice (I understand that your autism affects that and I am sympathetic, but we still have to be able to do our jobs), even when it's polite and non-punitive and just trying to be helpful. But since it's now ballooned into other people making remarks, I have to point out that commenting on TNZ discussions in other forums is not permitted. You're not in trouble, and I'm just saying this to prevent further discussion, so please don't argue the point like you did with the mod advice in TNZ. You're free to comment on anything else, just not TNZ related stuff.

It’s like watching a minnow approach what you know is just the tip of the deep sea fangly fish’s lure...

You however know better. You quickly edited out your mention of the poster's name, which barely saved you from a trolling warning, but I will not tolerate this kind of behavior again.

To everyone else in the thread, please don't comment on TNZ matters here. You don't know the full story unless you were there and it's against the rules to discuss it outside TNZ anyway. Several mods were just giving some friendly advice about a procedural issue and he didn't take it well. No one got in trouble or was rude to Rass or insulted him. It's just a misunderstanding.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

Um the fact that I explained myself and few listened, leading ot hte misunderstanding, meant that there was a few rude to me. The problem you still fail to see is I did not something to require the advice I was given. That is the whole point, none of you got that you were giving advice about something I had not done, and no one admitted they were wrong for misunderstanding my intent. They just insisted they were giving advice and due to the issues I overreacted, that is bullying. I did not overreact, I was disrespected because I DID NOT DO WHAT I WAS ACCUSED OF, THUS THE ADVICE WAS UNNEEDED AND DONE FOR ALTEROIER REASONS. If it is going to be insisted that I was just oversensitive to advise, then that is a continued assault on my character, it is disrespectful, it assumes that the issue was that I did not want advice, I love advice, but not when it is to tell me I did something wrong when I had not done a thing wrong. Locutus at this point when others had been kind, when it was all over with, you still felt the need to follow my account to another post, where btw what happened there can be discussed because this is about mental health help... I wonder why you followed me when I was talking to others calmly, in a forum meant for support. You are not a very good mod, because you are trolling now. You purposefully followed my account, and when I had not said names, when I had not gone off or ranted you still offer the same unneeded advice that started this. You are not sympathetic, Picard said it best,

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So since everyone thinks I am just over sensitive ban my account or leave me alone! People were being kind, you choose to come in to harass me, I was disrespected and you have no right to say I was not, I was accused of seeking self promotion, the advice was all based on the idea that I had spammed when I never did. I came to this site because I wanted a place where people acted with respect, understanding and honor, Locutus you have none.

 

[RassDavadCaras]

People can be a little harsh here sometimes, I’ve experienced it too. We’re part of a community that’s been well established for a long time and sometimes this happens with new members. I think it’s usually a miscommunication thing.

I’m so sorry if anyone made you feel uncomfortable. We all want you here, and I hope you truly know that.

I’m really sensitive and I frequently get upset about disagreements I have with other members. It affects me in a very personal way. You’re not alone.

Please stick around. There is so much about this community that is wonderful and good. I think you would be a great addition to TBBS and it would be great to see you around.

Thank you for being kind, realizing advice was not needed, but compassion... I do not know if I am welcome here, but it is nice to see a few people who did take Gene's Lessons to heart. Live Long and Prosper.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Um the fact that I explained myself and few listened, leading ot hte misunderstanding, meant that there was a few rude to me. The problem you still fail to see is I did not something to require the advice I was given. That is the whole point, none of you got that you were giving advice about something I had not done, and no one admitted they were wrong for misunderstanding my intent. They just insisted they were giving advice and due to the issues I overreacted, that is bullying. I did not overreact, I was disrespected because I DID NOT DO WHAT I WAS ACCUSED OF, THUS THE ADVICE WAS UNNEEDED AND DONE FOR ALTEROIER REASONS. If it is going to be insisted that I was just oversensitive to advise, then that is a continued assault on my character, it is disrespectful, it assumes that the issue was that I did not want advice, I love advice, but not when it is to tell me I did something wrong when I had not done a thing wrong. Locutus at this point when others had been kind, when it was all over with, you still felt the need to follow my account to another post, where btw what happened there can be discussed because this is about mental health help... I wonder why you followed me when I was talking to others calmly, in a forum meant for support. You are not a very good mod, because you are trolling now. You purposefully followed my account, and when I had not said names, when I had not gone off or ranted you still offer the same unneeded advice that started this. You are not sympathetic, Picard said it best,

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So since everyone thinks I am just over sensitive ban my account or leave me alone! People were being kind, you choose to come in to harass me, I was disrespected and you have no right to say I was not, I was accused of seeking self promotion, the advice was all based on the idea that I had spammed when I never did. I came to this site because I wanted a place where people acted with respect, understanding and honor, Locutus you have none.

I didn't follow you anywhere, this is my forum, and a post in the thread was notified on, so I had to respond to it. But your reaction here (similar to your reaction to advice in TNZ) is specifically why I avoided addressing your post before until I had no choice because other people were commenting on it.

It's not "over with" because you took an issue from another forum and carried it over to here, and follow on comments from other posters were still happening.

People have rightly been giving you A LOT of leeway and sympathy and understanding because of your autism, but at some point we have to be able to do our jobs and you can't just continue to refuse all moderator advice and admonishments and attack people for trying to give you advice about board procedure. You don't get carte blanche to do whatever you want here. You have to follow the rules just like everyone else. You may think you were doing that, but you weren't, hence the advice in the other thread.

I specifically asked you not to argue the issue here and you refused. So you get an infraction for refusing a mod request.

Stop discussing this issue now, or you will get more warnings.