Maybe Q cant alter time and space

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by WildManWizard, Jul 20, 2020.

  1. at Quark's

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    It's impossible to judge whether what Q does is 'real' or not. Even the Q Who encounter that seems pretty much real, doesn't necessarily have to be so, not even when only considering TNG material. I believe the implication of the Neutral Zone was meant to be that it was Borg who took those colonies - a season before Q Who so the Borg were knocking on the door on their own account already.

    Given that we can't determine if Q "really" affects time and space or not in any conceivable way, the question is irrelevant, in a sense. (But of course still fun to discuss).
     
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  2. Tim Thomason

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    Yeah, the Borg were already on their way, thanks to Enterprise, the Hansens, whatever info they gathered from those Romulan colonies, the Starfleet ship they assimilated in 2362, and probably many more undocumented encounters with Federation ships or ships from peripheral powers. They assimilated Klingon ships at one point, even though we never saw it, and the Ferengi (likely familiar with the Federation centuries before likewise) have a very low designation.

    The whole situation in Q Who was Q telling the Enterprise-D to get their sh*t together because they are about to be attacked by this massive machine civilization they were mostly* unaware of.

    *Discounting the prior incidents involving Cochrane's warnings, the 2153 encounter, the El-Aurian intel, and the Hansen expedition, all of which were probably buried under loads of other encounters with other crazy lifeforms and forgotten.
     
  3. JesterFace

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    What if it's a TV show on a massive holodeck, woah.
     
  4. Orphalesion

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    Again what would be the point of such a theory or thought experiment.
    It's certainly not new or creative, since that's a type of fan idea that gets tossed around in nearly every fandom.
     
  5. ThankQ

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    @Jayson1, you changed your name and started posting in TNG?
     
  6. ThankQ

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    And answers that explain everything explain nothing. If you why it rains, the answer "God's will," even if true, doesn't explain about evaporation, condensation, temperature, pressure, etc. And you could also apply "God's will," if true, to any other questions, nearly all of which would have nothing to do with evaporation, condensation, temperature, pressure, etc.
     
  7. Tim Thomason

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    It is an interesting thought if Q was actually some guy named John Quincy who likes to pretend he's a god in some virtual world he created. Maybe he's observing all these fun stories created by the AI he controls, and he occasionally jumps into the action when especially bored, creating this whole fake backstory for himself and "his people".
     
  8. Orphalesion

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    It's just the standard "what if it's all in X character's head" idea yet again.

    There is no indication or hint towards it in any of the shows, it offers literally nothing and brings nothing new to the table.
     
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  9. Xhiandra

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    Agreed. Could it all be illusions? Yes. Maybe all of TNG, DS9 & VOY are happening in a few instants during the Farpoint trial. All illusory.
    It can't be disproven, but it's a non-starter as far as ideas go. The fiction equivalent of solipsism.
     
  10. Arpy

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    “Deathwish” and most of the Q arc on VOY makes no sense if they’re not near omnipotent.

    Plus, it’s all of a sudden boring if he’s not. What makes him interesting for me is attempting to grasp what might possibly be gleaned from his absurd behavior.