"Assistant" wasn't the right word, business partner is what I should have went with. And, yeah, I didn't remember his name. I'm not good with names.
Marvel/Netflix Daredevil Season 1
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"Assistant" wasn't the right word, business partner is what I should have went with. And, yeah, I didn't remember his name. I'm not good with names.
So if you've just watched Iron Man...you're perfectly happy to not remember the name of his chauffer, right?
Was there anything in particular?
Bribing the officer at the beginning to get "inside scoops" on potential clients, and then being quick to deny that client counsel when she says she cannot pay.
I know they're a start-up and, like any business, they depend on income. But he seemed really quick to leave her to the wolves when she said she couldn't pay which is an abrupt turn-around from how eager he was to provide her with counsel moments earlier. And I dunno, he just overall feels "slimy" compared to Murdoch. Granted, these are just first impressions from having only seen the first episode.
But being that the first thing we see him doing is bribing a police-officer to get clients doesn't speak well to his character right out of the gate.
Also granted I don't see how much of a faux-pas that is to do. I guess in all reality it's ideal for the accused considering she counsel before she was even questioned because of the bribery so it works out for her. But, still, it's not a good sign when the first thing a lawyer-character says is, "I have to go bribe a police-officer."
My attitude may likely change as I take on more of the series.
Finished the season last night. Epic, excellent, and not at all in ways I expected it to be. Sad to see DeKnight parting ways, but excited that there will be a second season.
Trekker4747, you should keep watching. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the development Foggy gets throughout the series.
Trekker4747, you should keep watching. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the development Foggy gets throughout the series.
Well, the inside scoop thing was played more for laughs than anything (I think there's a nice frenemy thing between defense attorneys and police officers, so I appreciated it). The payment thing is tricky. I only take court appointed work so I never have to worry about that. Frankly, there's no way they should be taking a murder case anyway, but there's good reasons to turn down clients that don't pay. A murder trial would take up months of your time exclusively on a case so that's a lot of bills that need to get paid. I don't necessarily disagree, I just think he's more of a pragmatist. I think there's some good character growth related to that later in the season (if you haven't gotten to it yet, I'll not spoil it here).
Although I don't think they should have been able to pay their bills all season, but that's a separate discussion.
Re-watched the first episode tonight with my friend and then we watched the next four episodes. Will likely continue them together in the coming weeks, meaning I'll just be that much more backed-up on watching Gotham/SHIELD with him.
Foggy's grown on me a bit more. But I'm really liking Matt and the actor playing him is doing a good, slick, job. I notice some similarities between his portrayal and Affleck's. Scant similarities but similarities none the less. Mostly in how Murdoch carries himself, but the behavior as Daredevil is much different, I like this guy's more brutal style. Sometimes -to me- his voice borders on getting Bale-man-y. But not nearly as severe.
I really like how brutal and raw the fight scenes are. It's refreshing to see the camera hang-back and just show the fight rather than being several quick-cuts and close-ups to the hits connecting. We get to *see* the fights and they're well choreographed and carried out.
Liked the introduction of the nurse character (again, sorry, names) and the track their secretary/chick from the first episode is going along. Though I'm uncertain as to how useful nearly 30-year-old office equipment is going to be to them.
I knew -without spoilers- the "him" was going to be Kingpin and the introduction of him was well done. I liked seeing him introduced as sort of this shy, reserved, man trying to impress a woman and then when he's cock-blocked his brutality is unleashed.
And holy-DAMN does this show make every single possible use it can of being on a medium that's not rated. The violence in it just uncanny, the guy who took himself out with the jagged metal in the alley, smashing the guy's head with the bowling ball, and Kingpin smashing the guy's head with the car-door. This first foray of Marvel going into the dark is them jumping into the deep end!
The cinematography is a bit too dark, I think, I had to use a different color/picture setting in order to truly see things well. With my usual setting I'm sitting here like, "Okay, *they're* not blind, so why are the lights off?!" The picture setting where things look better doesn't have very deep black-levels but I ca at least see something more of a picture.
I keep wondering if Matt's/Matt's father's gym is the same gym we see Captain America in in the CA stinger/Avengers trailer, in Avengers?
Interesting to see how DD's "senses" are being portrayed without yet seeing how he he "sees." The use of sounds and such is well done, but at times for me borders on Superman's hearing which at times itself borders on an "active" hearing process.
Enjoying the series, but it'll likely take me a while to finish the first season. As much as I want to binge-watch it, I also want to watch it with my buddy. Don't mind doing second-viewings but, I dunno, it's more fun for it to be new to me at the same time it's new to him.
Foggy's grown on me a bit more. But I'm really liking Matt and the actor playing him is doing a good, slick, job. I notice some similarities between his portrayal and Affleck's. Scant similarities but similarities none the less. Mostly in how Murdoch carries himself, but the behavior as Daredevil is much different, I like this guy's more brutal style. Sometimes -to me- his voice borders on getting Bale-man-y. But not nearly as severe.
I really like how brutal and raw the fight scenes are. It's refreshing to see the camera hang-back and just show the fight rather than being several quick-cuts and close-ups to the hits connecting. We get to *see* the fights and they're well choreographed and carried out.
Liked the introduction of the nurse character (again, sorry, names) and the track their secretary/chick from the first episode is going along. Though I'm uncertain as to how useful nearly 30-year-old office equipment is going to be to them.
I knew -without spoilers- the "him" was going to be Kingpin and the introduction of him was well done. I liked seeing him introduced as sort of this shy, reserved, man trying to impress a woman and then when he's cock-blocked his brutality is unleashed.
And holy-DAMN does this show make every single possible use it can of being on a medium that's not rated. The violence in it just uncanny, the guy who took himself out with the jagged metal in the alley, smashing the guy's head with the bowling ball, and Kingpin smashing the guy's head with the car-door. This first foray of Marvel going into the dark is them jumping into the deep end!
The cinematography is a bit too dark, I think, I had to use a different color/picture setting in order to truly see things well. With my usual setting I'm sitting here like, "Okay, *they're* not blind, so why are the lights off?!" The picture setting where things look better doesn't have very deep black-levels but I ca at least see something more of a picture.
I keep wondering if Matt's/Matt's father's gym is the same gym we see Captain America in in the CA stinger/Avengers trailer, in Avengers?
Interesting to see how DD's "senses" are being portrayed without yet seeing how he he "sees." The use of sounds and such is well done, but at times for me borders on Superman's hearing which at times itself borders on an "active" hearing process.
Enjoying the series, but it'll likely take me a while to finish the first season. As much as I want to binge-watch it, I also want to watch it with my buddy. Don't mind doing second-viewings but, I dunno, it's more fun for it to be new to me at the same time it's new to him.
The nurse is Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson), originally a character associated with Luke Cage (so I'm hoping she'll show up in his series). The secretary is Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll), who was Matt's secretary and first love interest in the comics.
Well, it doesn't make every use, since there's no nudity and no F-word. And the violence was a bit less graphic than it would've been on something like HBO or Starz, according to DeKnight; apparently they would've actually shown the decapitation there rather than shooting it from under the SUV.
Eh, true, not *every* use. But, still, wow.
And I didn't even recognize Rosario Dawson, but it's been a few years since I've seen her in anything.
And I didn't even recognize Rosario Dawson, but it's been a few years since I've seen her in anything.
The decapitation was a bit much, in my opinion, but certainly informed my opinion on Fisk.
The more brutal moments involve people being hurt but living, at least for a while:
I'm not going to revisit all the difficult scenes for me.
The combat, though, is very well done, in my opinion.
The more brutal moments involve people being hurt but living, at least for a while:
I think that Sticks taking off a guys hand, the injured Russians who are impaled on rebar from an explosion being tortured and questioned by pushing on the bar, and Claire's capture and torture a bit more disturbing.
I'm not going to revisit all the difficult scenes for me.
The combat, though, is very well done, in my opinion.
Just finished watching the show yesterday, and then reading up on this thread.
Fantastic show. Loved the fall of Fisk and how he didn't really become the Kingpin until the final episode. And how Gao told him that choice would be forced upon him.
Nobu being burned was almost funny after the fact. Because the show kept having Fisk tell us multiple times afterwards about how he went up in smoke or some other such in-your-face hint. Yes, we get it. The Hand. At least we weren't bashed quite so much over the head with the fact that Leland has an adult son also named or nicknamed Lee.
I'll agree with some others that I wasn't thrilled with how the final costume was handled. I guess the costume itself didn't really bother me or look bad, but it just didn't feel like the same show I was watching for the previous 12 and a half episodes. And it seemed like they threw in some oddly filmed scenes of him jumping around rooftops at the end of that episode too, and they didn't feel right, and they kind of didn't look right either.
Regarding one scene
But yeah, a stunningly good show, far better than I had dared to hope for. It may have petered out a tiny bit towards the end, but that may just be because about half of the first 10 episodes were 9/10 or 10/10.
And yes, Senor Foggy was great.
Fantastic show. Loved the fall of Fisk and how he didn't really become the Kingpin until the final episode. And how Gao told him that choice would be forced upon him.
Nobu being burned was almost funny after the fact. Because the show kept having Fisk tell us multiple times afterwards about how he went up in smoke or some other such in-your-face hint. Yes, we get it. The Hand. At least we weren't bashed quite so much over the head with the fact that Leland has an adult son also named or nicknamed Lee.
I'll agree with some others that I wasn't thrilled with how the final costume was handled. I guess the costume itself didn't really bother me or look bad, but it just didn't feel like the same show I was watching for the previous 12 and a half episodes. And it seemed like they threw in some oddly filmed scenes of him jumping around rooftops at the end of that episode too, and they didn't feel right, and they kind of didn't look right either.
Regarding one scene
I think folks here are missing one of the main points. She only shot him after he stood up to approach her. She was under a direct physical threat.
But yeah, a stunningly good show, far better than I had dared to hope for. It may have petered out a tiny bit towards the end, but that may just be because about half of the first 10 episodes were 9/10 or 10/10.
And yes, Senor Foggy was great.
Did you guys notice the Atlas logo on the door across the hall from their office? I spotted it a couple times throughout the season. Nice touch.
I've been wondering about that. I listened to it twice, but I'm still not sure: the final scene of episode 8. (Awesome scene by the way.) Could have been the f-word, could have just been an f-sound. Or am I just flat out wrong on this?
I'm re-watching the episode I've already seen (again, saving the others for when my buddy is able to watch) with the Descriptive Audio. Although I'm ably sighted, I get a measure of enjoyment out of the Descriptive Audio tracks on movies, it's interesting to hear how scenes are described by the tracks and they do a very good job of setting the picture for people who are visually impaired. (Though sometimes I wonder if certain terms and such "translate" well to people who cannot see. If they've a measure of vision (legally blind) some terms could make sense, or if they weren't always blind, but if someone is 100% no vision for their entire lives. Example them calling the tablet computer simply a "tablet." Even *I* don't think my first thoughts upon hearing that word would be to think of a portable computer, granted the context of description makes sense as the scene goes on and what's on screen is displayed, but I'd think "tablet computer" or "portable computer" would have worked to better describe things without a moment of confusion.
Anyway, even if you're sighted watching some of the episodes again -particularly the second episode with the hallway scene- again with the DA feature on can be an interesting wa..., er, listen. Disney/Marvel usually has the DA service with all of their movies -it's with all of the MCU movies released to date- and are often pretty interesting to listen to.
I'm a freak, I enjoy things like this. Used to really like watching TV with closed captioning on.
Anyway, even if you're sighted watching some of the episodes again -particularly the second episode with the hallway scene- again with the DA feature on can be an interesting wa..., er, listen. Disney/Marvel usually has the DA service with all of their movies -it's with all of the MCU movies released to date- and are often pretty interesting to listen to.
I'm a freak, I enjoy things like this. Used to really like watching TV with closed captioning on.
Ugh, your belt is supposed to match your shoes.
Yeah, but he can feel colors:
There's something quite racist there, just under the surface.
Yeah, but he can feel colors:
I think what that last line means is that they're not just different colors of the same fabric, but different fabrics with different textures. They're old shirts of his, so he's probably been told in the past what colors they are, so he knows that, say, the light polyester fabric is yellow and the heavier cotton weave is red, or something like that.
Fine, explain this one 
Yeah, but he can feel colors:
I think what that last line means is that they're not just different colors of the same fabric, but different fabrics with different textures. They're old shirts of his, so he's probably been told in the past what colors they are, so he knows that, say, the light polyester fabric is yellow and the heavier cotton weave is red, or something like that.
The context of the comic panels, and the comic's history, has it established Matt can "feel" the difference between colors. It's not just knowing the different fabrics are different colors he can actually "feel" the color differences. Which, fuck-it, given everything else his super-heightened senses do for him we'll just roll with it. If I'm not mistaken the "explanation" is that he can feel which light waves are being absorbed by the material and which ones are being reflected and is able to get the color from that. Which, yeah, sure.
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