Well, crime fighting powers in the sense of an Iron suit or a Magic Hammer to quote Wesley. He doesn't even have super strength like Captain America. He's a hero who has always been marked as much by his limitations as his strengths.
Marvel/Netflix Daredevil Season 1
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And i'm done (planned to do way more this weekend but Daredevil was more fun 
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I said it before and it hasn't changed.. that was one hell of a first season and dark done right. We all love our superheroes who shrug off hits that would take a normal person's head off but this Daredevil is way more relatable and at least I winced more than once when he got torn up.
Now on to more spoilery stuff
Anyway, a really good start to the street level MCU universe and if the upcoming shows are this good we're in for a treat and Marvel may even wrestle TV (can Netflix be called TV?) back from DC to make the supremacy complete.
).I said it before and it hasn't changed.. that was one hell of a first season and dark done right. We all love our superheroes who shrug off hits that would take a normal person's head off but this Daredevil is way more relatable and at least I winced more than once when he got torn up.
Now on to more spoilery stuff
Damn that was hard to watch and acting on the highest level.
The friendship of such close friends to come to a breaking point and to see Charlie Cox' Matt Murdoch break down in tears for having to hurt his best friend and essentially brother was just heartbreaking to watch. This was character drama at its finest and the best i have yet seen in the MCU. Agents of Shield got some good scenes in that regard but it didn't reach that deep.
I liked how it took nearly to the end of the season until they reconciled which was also nice to see. Maybe the best episode of the season.
The friendship of such close friends to come to a breaking point and to see Charlie Cox' Matt Murdoch break down in tears for having to hurt his best friend and essentially brother was just heartbreaking to watch. This was character drama at its finest and the best i have yet seen in the MCU. Agents of Shield got some good scenes in that regard but it didn't reach that deep.
I liked how it took nearly to the end of the season until they reconciled which was also nice to see. Maybe the best episode of the season.
I don't know what to think of it. It follows the basic design of the current MCU in that it looks practical while being a little flashy. I would have liked it if it had smoother lines without it being a simple red leather suit like in the movie. Especially the headgear was distracting with the visible lines, i would have preferred a smoother head with the horns similar to the title graphics.
Anyway, a really good start to the street level MCU universe and if the upcoming shows are this good we're in for a treat and Marvel may even wrestle TV (can Netflix be called TV?) back from DC to make the supremacy complete.
DD doesn't have physical super-powers...his athletic and fighting abilities are supposed to be the result of training, not powers.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
To use a good onscreen example, in The Avengers it was established that SHIELD was not only keeping an eye on Banner, but keeping other parties (implied to be Ross) off his scent. Most likely informed by the events of TIH, Fury must have figured that the surest way of unleashing the Hulk was to actively pursue him, and that Banner had good control of his condition when left to his own devices. And Banner was likely both too closely watched by legitimate SHIELD types, and too dangerous, for HYDRA to risk trying to grab. They would have wound up both prematurely outed and thoroughly smashed.
DD's credits looked very...pink on my laptop.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
I like that they went more working girl/girl-next-door, rather than casting somebody who looked too much like they belong on the cover of a magazine.
Haven't met him yet, though I'm planning to watch #2 soonish.
Not too hard...so he'll have a whole year of experience under his belt, maybe. And I think that 15 is low-balling his age a bit...I never got the impression that the Lee/Ditko Peter Parker was supposed to be quite that young when we met him...16 at the youngest.
Maybe something like that. I wouldn't expect the MCU creators to let things established in AoS interfere with storytelling or world-building ability. It's believable that SHIELD wasn't omniscient and that sometimes superhumans might have fallen between the cracks before establishing themselves. And HYDRA was trying to lay low in that period.
To use a good onscreen example, in The Avengers it was established that SHIELD was not only keeping an eye on Banner, but keeping other parties (implied to be Ross) off his scent. Most likely informed by the events of TIH, Fury must have figured that the surest way of unleashing the Hulk was to actively pursue him, and that Banner had good control of his condition when left to his own devices. And Banner was likely both too closely watched by legitimate SHIELD types, and too dangerous, for HYDRA to risk trying to grab. They would have wound up both prematurely outed and thoroughly smashed.
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I've only just cashed in the six months free Netflix code I'd been hoarding for this and loved the first two episodes. I get that you don't see the red suit until the end, but what about his billy club(s) / nunchaku / staff / grappling hook / blind cane ?
Do you get to see DD swinging Spidey style from the rooftops ?
Do you get to see DD swinging Spidey style from the rooftops ?
Just watch the show and enjoy and as to your question it kinda feels organic and natural how he starts using the Sticks (get it?
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Just watch the show and enjoy and as to your question it kinda feels organic and natural how he starts using the Sticks (get it?
Yup !
Well, television means the electronic transmission of moving images over a distance, so I'd say yes, streaming video can be called TV. The term refers to the broadcast medium rather than the device we watch it on (which is more properly called a television set, i.e. a unit for receiving television broadcasts).
Officially, in the comics continuity, Peter was 15 when he first got the spider bite. (This wasn't specified in the original story, but it's been established since -- perhaps in reference to that story appearing in Amazing Fantasy #15.)
No swinging, no, though there's some nice out-of-costume rooftop parkour in one of the last episodes. He doesn't use weapons for the first half-season, just his fists. He gets a pair of wooden fighting sticks from Stick midway through (I'm sure there's a technical term I'm forgetting). His final equipment includes a fancier pair of short sticks that can be screwed together into a longer club. But it's much simpler than the multipurpose club/hook/etc. he uses in the comics.
I'm wondering how much we'll see of Daredevil and/or Matt in the next three Netflix shows. Will it just be Fury-type cameos or full-on guest appearances that connect the shows together? I know Luke Cage will be introduced in AKA Jessica Jones before he gets his own show, and I'll be surprised if he doesn't guest in Iron Fist too, but how much will DD fit in?
In terms of strength and stamina, yeah, he's still human. Though apparently genetically predisposed to be good at taking one hell of a beating, his martial skills are purely the result of training....but the same could be said for the likes of Skye, Donnie, Chan and (presumably) Wanda & Pietro.
Thing is though, Daredevil's martial skills aren't what makes him stand out from others, it's his super-human sensing abilities that allow him to use those skills to full effect. Just as Skye's "quake" abilities make her superhuman.
Indeed I'd argue that actually neither Iron Man nor Thor have superpowers. The latter at least by the standards of his own people; everything he can do above and beyond the average Asgardian is down to (VERY advanced) technology and training. Likewise while Stark is a physically normal human aided by pure technology and self training. Granted he's also a genius, but it's a natural genius (for lack of a better term) and not the result of any genetic tampering or science experiment...at least not as far as we know.
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if Howard tried to invent a self powering baby nightlight and ended up accidentally irradiating Tony's brain with intelli-rays or some-such.
I imagine they'd give each character some breathing room to establish themselves before crossing over. They can make some effort to connect these characters via the world that they share without resorting to blatant drop-ins.
If anyone needs a lawyer, though, that's too great an opportunity for an out-of-costume guest appearance to be passed up.
Hell, Hero(es) for Hire might hang up his/their shingle in the same low-rent building as Nelson & Murdock.
Well, sure. I'm thinking you'd get Jessica on her own for the first half-season, and then maybe in episode 7 or 8, she'd need to consult some inexpensive lawyers about something and would drop in at Nelson & Murdock. But I'd like it to be a proper crossover where Daredevil actually shows up to help out -- mainly just because I want them to use that costumed identity after spending 11 hours and 43 minutes explicating its origins.
That would be fun, and a good way to save money on sets. Maybe Karen could clue them in on where to get cheap office supplies.
Of course, Luke Cage would be far more likely to set up shop in Harlem.
In an interview with THR, Stephen S. DeKnight said this about connections between the Netflix shows...
In an interview with THR, Stephen S. DeKnight said this about connections between the Netflix shows...
Frankly, that's where I disagree. His senses aren't what makes him stand out (even though they are something he has that others don't), it's his dedication and will that stand out. He has a spirit that can't be conquered and a headstrong attitude that makes him dive in headfirst and figure out where he's diving into second.
This is what I don't get.
Daredevil NEVER turned the lights off.
He's fighting 40 guys in a room where the only reason that they can aim a punch or a bullet is 2 light bulbs swinging freely.
You can argue that if we can't see him fight, then why would we pay netlix to watch a blanked out screen for 6 minutes while Daredevil is taking care of business?
He's Dieharding.
This is not how Daredevil fights.
It's how Moon Knight fights.
"After examining Moon Knight's fighting style, I vomited. It's disgusting. He continuously forces himself to take punches even an idiot child could avoid. He loves being punished. There's probably something psychological in that."
Taskmaster (baddie with photographic reflexes (He can copy any physical movement/skill he sees).)
Daredevil NEVER turned the lights off.
He's fighting 40 guys in a room where the only reason that they can aim a punch or a bullet is 2 light bulbs swinging freely.
You can argue that if we can't see him fight, then why would we pay netlix to watch a blanked out screen for 6 minutes while Daredevil is taking care of business?
He's Dieharding.
This is not how Daredevil fights.
It's how Moon Knight fights.
"After examining Moon Knight's fighting style, I vomited. It's disgusting. He continuously forces himself to take punches even an idiot child could avoid. He loves being punished. There's probably something psychological in that."
Taskmaster (baddie with photographic reflexes (He can copy any physical movement/skill he sees).)
I guess these are the screen equivalent of Marvel Max. Not surprising, since the Alias comic that AKA Jessica Jones is based on was published under the Max imprint. Although these don't seem to be going quite as far as I gather the Max comics got; they were "R-rated," and these are going for "PG-15" according to DeKnight.
Small aside, but does anyone else wonder if the deal with Sony happened sooner that Ben would have been working a the Daily Bugle instead of the Daily Bulletin?
Well now you're talking about character and personality traits whereas I was just discussing powers/abilities.
If you want to get literal then what actually makes him stand out is a bright red suit with horns, no?
I rather think the gentlemen at Nelson & Murdock are just as likely to hire Ms. Jones. She is a licensed P.I., yes? Matt, Foggy and Karen can't be doing all the investigative legwork themselves, so they'll have to outsource sooner or later.
Well now you're talking about character and personality traits whereas I was just discussing powers/abilities.
If you want to get literal then what actually makes him stand out is a bright red suit with horns, no?
Well, sure. I'm thinking you'd get Jessica on her own for the first half-season, and then maybe in episode 7 or 8, she'd need to consult some inexpensive lawyers about something and would drop in at Nelson & Murdock. But I'd like it to be a proper crossover where Daredevil actually shows up to help out -- mainly just because I want them to use that costumed identity after spending 11 hours and 43 minutes explicating its origins.
That would be fun, and a good way to save money on sets. Maybe Karen could clue them in on where to get cheap office supplies.
I rather think the gentlemen at Nelson & Murdock are just as likely to hire Ms. Jones. She is a licensed P.I., yes? Matt, Foggy and Karen can't be doing all the investigative legwork themselves, so they'll have to outsource sooner or later.
Just watched #2. Things got pretty gruesome with
After the night out, I'm actually rooting for Karen and Foggy. Matt's too busy at night barely managing to not get himself killed to get into a relationship.
Is Claire somebody from the comics? The most recent DD comics I've read came out when Reagan was president.
that interrogation scene--I'm surprised that guy lived through everything.
After the night out, I'm actually rooting for Karen and Foggy. Matt's too busy at night barely managing to not get himself killed to get into a relationship.
Is Claire somebody from the comics? The most recent DD comics I've read came out when Reagan was president.
Good point. And it contrasts sharply with how they went out of their way a couple times in the first episode to show that Matt doesn't use lights...in spite of the fact that I've heard that blind people do tend to use lights and such as part of their routine. If he's so comfortable being in the dark, you'd think he'd use it to his advantage. They can use artistic license to light the scenes enough that we can tell what's going on. Though we might not appreciate the fight choreography as much.
I was wondering about that when I saw the paper in Ep. 1.Small aside, but does anyone else wonder if the deal with Sony happened sooner that Ben would have been working a the Daily Bugle instead of the Daily Bulletin?
Everyone should read Alias.
And if you have a local comic shop that you support, investing (emotionally) in a couple hard covers will avert their imminent bankruptcy for a couple weeks.
It's the least you could do.
I was hoping I could find it when I stopped by the closest shop (a place I've been meaning to go in for some time). I sadly didn't see it. I did, however, see Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers for sale. Didn't buy that, though
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