Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[DigificWriter]

None of this is so.

It absolutely is so.

 

[theenglish]

If the writing treats a character like they're subservient or inferior to other characters, the amount of screentime that the first character has relative to the other characters is irrelevant.

The thing that makes Tony being in Homecoming and Happy and "Fury" being in Far From Home trash choices is not that they're there at all, but that they're used in such a way that completely undermines Peter Parker as a character.

That's just bull. The whole, entire plot arc of Homecoming is that Peter doesn't need Stark to be Spider-Man.

 

[DigificWriter]

That's just bull. The whole, entire plot arc of Homecoming is that Peter doesn't need Stark to be Spider-Man.

That's not a lesson Peter should have had to learn, period.

Tony being in the story shouldn't be the story.

 

[theenglish]

That's not a lesson Peter should have had to learn, period.

Tony being in the story shouldn't be the story.

Well, that's just you opinion, man.

 

[Samurai8472]

The whole point for this version/iteration of Peter Parker/Spider-man is that he's young and had to learn to be on his own and not rely of Stark Tech/Happy Hogan and even his aunt.

It took awhile but he got to the point of a version of classic Peter Parker which is almost broke and relying on his own tech/ingenuity.

It's called a story arc.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I'm confused by this idea that she was supposed to be "the face of the MCU". I never really got the impression that was the plan, even after the first movie made $1.1 billion, they never really put the kind of emphasis on her you would expect them to put on "the face of the MCU".
And she's actually appeared more than a lot of the other characters, since being introduced in her movie in 2019, she's also appeared in the post-credits scene in Shang-Chi, Endgame, The Marvels, and one episode of Ms. Marvel and three episodes of What If...? which is actually a pretty decent number of appearances.

Honestly, this whole argument just screams of inserting yet another reason to pull down Brie Larsen and Captain Marvel based on a false premise. Like you said, I never got the impression that Carol was going to be the new face of the MCU. Such sweeping arguments about how she has failed to live up to this fabricated scenario look and feel entirely absurd and desperate. Just like all of the previous arguments to hate/dislike/ignore/etc. Brie and Carol. Frankly, I'm tired of this obsession. Fuck, I was tired of it in 2019.

 

[Jayson1]

Tony Stark was in Homecoming for about eight and a half minutes, Samuel Jackson was in Far From Home for about 9 minutes and Benedict Cumberbatch was in No Way Home for a whopping 12 and a half minutes.

Yet Stark was in every trailer for Homecoming. They knew what people wanted to see. Spidey and Iron Man in the same movie. Instant money maker.

 

[Jayson1]

Honestly, this whole argument just screams of inserting yet another reason to pull down Brie Larsen and Captain Marvel based on a false premise. Like you said, I never got the impression that Carol was going to be the new face of the MCU. Such sweeping arguments about how she has failed to live up to this fabricated scenario look and feel entirely absurd and desperate. Just like all of the previous arguments to hate/dislike/ignore/etc. Brie and Carol. Frankly, I'm tired of this obsession. Fuck, I was tired of it in 2019.

It likely wouldn't have existed or existed in the same fashion if Kevin Feige himself hadn't made that claim. I honestly do think he had higher hopes for the character that didn't quite happen like he wanted. Feige is also someone that really doesn't bend to fan outrage online that much. So for him to pull back on the characters use must have came from something else than just Nerdroitc or whoever making another rage bait video.