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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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They are not recasting Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, or at least there have been no announcements in the Variety article or anywhere else that I'm aware of. The only recasting he announced was the X-Men, which is what a lot of us were already expecting. He also said that he won't call what happens after Secret Wars a reboot, and said it's a "reset" and compared it to what happened after the Secret Wars comic, so I'm thinking we'll see the X-Men and FF universes merged with the 616 universe, and some of the history changed to incorporate those character, but it won't be a full hard reboot.
One other point of interest in the article I haven't seen mentioned yet, is that Feige said the Mile Morales has been made off limits by Sony until after the animated Spider-Vers series is over, so he won't be showing up any time soon.
He also said characters "introduced after The Eternals" will be seen again, but wouldn't say which ones.
And he talked about how much they like Iman Vellani, so it sounds like there's at least a decent chance Kamala might show up somewhere else.
Multiverse of Madness and Love & Thunder were also after The Eternals, so hopefully that will so include Clea and Hercules.
In case anyone was curious here's everything we've gotten since The Eternals:
Movies:
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantimania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
The Marvels
Deadpool & Wolverine
Capt. America: Brave New World
Thunderbolts * (*New Avengers)

Disney+ Series:
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Ms. Marvel
She Hulk: Attorney At Law
Secret Invasion
Loki Season 2
What If? Season 2
Echoe
Agatha All Along
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man
Daredevil: Born Again
Ironheart

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@Defcon, I saw you put Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man right before Spider-Man: Homecoming, and I just wanted to make sure you're aware that it takes in it's not a prequel to the MCU Spider-Man movie, it takes place in it's own separate universe. I saw you included it and What If?, but not X-Men '97 which is part of the definitely Multiverse we see in What If? and the movies.
 
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but not X-Men '97 which is part of the definitely Multiverse we see in What If? and the movies.

Based on what, the glimpse of the Watcher in an episode of '97? I don't think that's definitive, since the Watcher got a cameo or two in the original series as well.
 
X-Men '97 isnt an MCU project despite being announced alongside Phase 5.

By contrast, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man very much is an MCU project despite taking place in an alternate universe.
 
How is X-Men '97 not a MCU project but Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is? X-Men '97 is produced by Marvel Studios team, included all of the MCU titles cards and things like, and it included a cameo from What If?'s Watcher. YFNSM didn't include The Watcher or anything else other than the Marvel Television title cards, so X-Men '97 is more closely tied to the MCU than it is.
Based on what, the glimpse of the Watcher in an episode of '97? I don't think that's definitive, since the Watcher got a cameo or two in the original series as well.
Yeah, it was same design of The Watcher we saw in What If? and appeared in the sky the same way he did in the What If? episodes. And it's also been included in most of the official MCU lists and things that have come out since it was released.

Damage Control Agent P. Cleary played Adrian Moayed, who appeared in Spider-Man: No Way Home and Ms. Marvel will also be appearing Wonder Man. I don't remember the character, but it's always nice to fun when they can make these kind of smaller connections between the shows and movies.
 
How is X-Men '97 not a MCU project but Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is?

Because Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man was originally developed to feature the Sacred Timeline version of Peter before being retooled to instead feature a Variant Peter, while X-Men '97 is a direct continuation of X-Men: The Animated Series and shares the continuity of both that series and Spider-Man: The Animated Series.
 
How is X-Men '97 not a MCU project but Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is?

YFNSM is overtly in a What If...?-style variant of the MCU's continuity, with essentially the same history until a divergence point occurred and things went differently thereafter. '97 is a continuation of the original animated series's continuity, which of course is extremely different from the MCU because it predated the MCU by 16 years (and was in the same universe as Spider-Man: The Animated Series).

Yes, of course it's trendy these days to force all adaptations together under the "multiverse" umbrella whether it makes sense or not, but I resist presuming that as a default, because it's quite artificial and is an imposition on the various, originally separate continuities rather than something that grows legitimately out of their narratives. (As was pointed out earlier, it doesn't make sense to conflate the X-Men movies into the MCU's multiverse when they follow contradictory laws of time travel.) I would rather appreciate X-Men '97 as a faithful continuation of the '92 show's continuity than worry about how it connects to a different continuity.
 
They are not recasting Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, or at least there have been no announcements in the Variety article or anywhere else that I'm aware of.
 
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