Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Reverend]

I'm still of the opinion that Thanos' choppy blade thing was adamantium, because: what else could do that to Cap's shield? So it's entirely possible some of it could already be in the wild on Earth. And if this stuff really can be farmed from the corpse of a Celestial, well then there's this one place it might have originally come from . . .

Being Disney/Marvel they might just go from Jackman to X-23.

Don't threaten me with a good time!

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was using "Hollywood" as shorthand for an established "name" actor. Of course there are people like Simu Liu they plucked out of nowhere, but they tend to be in the distinct minority when it comes to leading roles.

In my observation they've gone with a blend of name actors, up and coming actors and relative unknowns. Looking as Phase One. Jackson, Downey and Johansen, name actors. Hemsworth, Evans and Ruffalo, up and coming I guess. Though I was only familiar with Evans from the FF film. Renner, no clue who he was. Similarly I was unfamiliar with Boseman or Holland. Knew Cumberbatch form Sherlock and Star Trek. Rudd from various comedy films,. Olsen and Bettany? Never heard of them.

 

[Anwar]

Wolverine not getting his adamantium skeleton until more recently isn't really such a problem in the MCU.

 

[The Knappos]

No he hasn't, at least it is not necessary to the character. He has been alive for at least a hundred years, but the adamantium addition is more recent. In fact CA4 would be an ideal place for him to show up as Logan and Steve fought together during WWII.

Compared to 190 years, 5-7 years is still very recent.

And it's not implausible that there'd be another source or two either. If Earth was an incubation unit for a being of which adamantium is part of their make up - then (especially as it's sci-fi) it would make sense if the incubation unit had some of that element incorporated for the foetus to absorb as it grows.

This would make the rumoured story line of competition over mining the dead foetus for adamantium make sense in a way too - a previously extremely rare resource and there's suddenly a massive, massive and easily accessed (no initial tunnelling needed) source of it.

You could set it up to say that the day after the Eternals killed the space baby the Weapon X programme came along and extracted some adamantium and then immediately came up with the method of bonding it to Howlett's skeleton having him to hand. In that way, if Eternals was set in 2023/24 and X-Men when they eventually do turn up it's set in 2028 (I mean, that's assuming that post-Endgame films (exc Black Widow) are all set in real time ish following Endgame. Though Incredible Hulk, Thor and the 21C parts of Captain America and Avengers all happen within a fortnight apparently - so that's not guaranteed) you've got your 5-7 years.

But having had another, scarcer source of adamantium and knowledge of it feels to me like it makes more sense and is simpler.

 

[Christopher]

And it's not implausible that there'd be another source or two either. If Earth was an incubation unit for a being of which adamantium is part of their make up - then (especially as it's sci-fi) it would make sense if the incubation unit had some of that element incorporated for the foetus to absorb as it grows.

Again, adamantium is not an element, it's an extremely strong steel alloy. At least it is in the comics and the previous movies (the movies didn't specify steel per se, but they did show it was a specially mixed alloy). The MCU has certainly changed things from the comics before, but turning adamantium into some kind of alien element would be an odd change.

I mean, the only reason it's possible to make things out of adamantium is that it doesn't become nigh-indestructible until after its ingredients are mixed and solidified. If it started out as a pure, nigh-indestructible element, it would be nigh-impossible to melt, forge, and shape it. So it only makes sense as a human-made alloy rather than a naturally occurring mineral like vibranium. (Which is something that really bugs me about The Mandalorian. If beskar is so strong that it can even survive a lightsaber, how the hell is it so easy to melt down and reforge?)

 

[Mr. Adventure]

This whole adamantium thing is from some rumors, does there seem to be much basis for their validity?

 

[Set Harth]

Again, adamantium is not an element, it's an extremely strong steel alloy. At least it is in the comics and the previous movies (the movies didn't specify steel per se, but they did show it was a specially mixed alloy). The MCU has certainly changed things from the comics before, but turning adamantium into some kind of alien element would be an odd change.

Didn't it come from a meteor in the Origins film?

 

[Anwar]

Didn't it come from a meteor in the Origins film?

In Wolverine Origins they said it was from a meteor that crashed in Africa somewhere. I think it was a in-joke to Vibranium.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Just want to remind people of the 2023 Box Office Predictor thread. Thought it would be of interest to us here since at leats a couple of those movies on the list will be from the ones we talk about here. And i would love to see what y'all predict.

 

[Tuskin38]

A version of the Wakanda Forever script dated August 2022 leaked, there are differences from the final film, not sure if I can link it here for legal reasons, but you can find people talking about it on the r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers subreddit.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Studios are posting ‘For Your Consideration’ screenplays for the Oscars online. Disney hasn’t posted theirs yet, but they will soon and Wakanda Forever will be among their entries.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I saw io9 had a link to a script for Nope, maybe it's out there for the same reason.

 

[Tuskin38]

There's no official upload for the script from Disney, yet AFAIK.

 

[wayoung]

I dunno why everyone is arguing over who could be Wolverine, obviously it's Jared Keeso.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

But it wouldn't make sense for it to be a big deal now, if it's been around in a big enough supply for Department K or whoever the MCU goes with, to coat Wolverine's skeleton in it. And I'm not sure if I buy the Celestial being a source of Adamantium, it looked more like marble in the Eternals.

Its a big deal now that Wolverine is joining the MCU, so all future references / uses of Adamantium will be tied to / hinting at its biggest "salesman".

As long as it's something that only happens in She Hulk and Deadpool, I don't see the problem.

They are part of the MCU, not a separate production from another studio. Anything the 4th-wall breaking characters do / are capable of is not isolated to their internal world, nor has any producer said anything of the kind.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Denial is a river in Khandaq...

 

[Rich Watson]

Does anyone else find the lack of promotion for Quantumania a bit odd given that it opens in just six weeks?

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Does anyone else find the lack of promotion for Quantumania a bit odd given that it opens in just six weeks?

I was watching the college football playoffs and there were constant ads for the next preview coming Jan 9 during the final (which is always on Youtube at the same time or immediately following).

 

[JD]

Its a big deal now that Wolverine is joining the MCU, so all future references / uses of Adamantium will be tied to / hinting at its biggest "salesman".

Of course, I just don't see where adamantium is something that needs a whole movie just to introduce it. All they need to do is explain that it's a super strong alloy that coats Wolverine's bones when they introduce it.

They are part of the MCU, not a separate production from another studio. Anything the 4th-wall breaking characters do / are capable of is not isolated to their internal world, nor has any producer said anything of the kind.

There's no reason that it can't be, just because they're in the same universe doesn't mean that it has to effect every other part of it. There's plenty of stuff that's been happening in just one series, or at least only in stories involving the characters from that series. For instance, magic has been pretty much isolated to stories involving Dr. Strange or Wanda Maximoff, it's not like we're seeing Captain America or Ant Man fighting sorcerers or demons.

 

[YLu]

There's no reason that it can't be, just because they're in the same universe doesn't mean that it has to effect every other part of it.

Precisely. Nobody seriously believes She-Hulk's tone implies Scott Lang is suddenly going to start speaking to the audience in Quantumania or whatever. There doesn't need to be an explicit announcement of that by producers anymore than there needs to be an explicit announcement that Rhodey being played by different actors doesn't mean he's a shapeshifter. Audiences aren't dumb. They understand how storytelling works.