Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    20.1%
  2. A

    29.9%
  3. A-

    14.9%
  4. B+

    7.8%
  5. B

    13.0%
  6. B-

    2.6%
  7. C+

    1.9%
  8. C

    3.2%
  9. C-

    3.2%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0.6%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
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  13. F

    2.6%
  1. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    Conversely, I thought about going to see Wakanda Forever a second time a week ago but ended up not doing it because I knew it was coming to Disney+ at the beginning of February.

    Whereas I saw Black Panther four times in theaters, the fourth being on the same day I saw Infinity War the first time.

    I get the reasons for the accelerated release but that still makes me a little sad.
     
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  2. Turtletrekker

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    I don't think it's a coincidence that Wakanda Forever is getting its Disney plus release on the first day of Black History awareness month.
     
  3. Starkers

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    I didn't even see Wakanda Forever a first time in the cinema. I don't go to the cinema anywhere near as often these days and when I had a free afternoon before Christmas I opted for Violent Night instead, purely because I knew Wakanda Forever would be on Disney+ very soon. I do wonder if Disney are shooting themselves in the foot a little here.

    It isn't just Marvel films though, it seems if a film is going to end up on Disney+ it's going to do so very quickly. I saw Nightmare Alley last Feb (I think) and less than a month later I could have seen it on D+, and Menu was barely in the cinemas before Christmas before winding up on Disney+ in early Jan (very good film btw).

    Conversely if a film is going to wind up somewhere else like Amazon or Netflix it takes bloody ages! :lol:
     
  4. Mr. Adventure

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    Yeah, I had the same thing though I feel a little guilty about it because I'm sure it would be served better in the cinema. I don't have anyone to take at the moment and I hate northern winters which hasn't helped, I haven't completely ruled out going to see it but I more than likely will just wait a week. I enjoy the cinema though but I've only been mildly interested about Wakanda Forever, I plan on seeing Quantumania for sure in the theater.
     
  5. Set Harth

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    I saw it twice but the second time was free.
     
  6. JoeZhang

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    Wikipedia is a very frustrating place if you are an actual expert. There is a misrepresentation of my PhD in a few places and it's too much hassle to deal with.
     
  7. Rich Watson

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    In response to some idiot troll on Twitter who was saying there's no way she'd be hired by Marvel Studios because she's a terrible actor, Chloe Bennet has dropped a serious hint that she is indeed coming back. If true, "Secret Invasion" kind of seems the obvious place.

    https://twitter.com/chloebennet/status/1618199756614041600

    Hilariously the guy in question dismisses AOS as a soap opera (?!?) and then got owned by people pointing out all the acclaimed actors who came from actual soap operas, including Angela Bassett who's just been nominated for an Oscar for "Wakanda Forever".
     
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  8. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    Awesome if true.

    Do you have the link to that tweet?
     
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  9. Turtletrekker

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    Secret Wars more likely.
     
  10. Starscream2112

    Starscream2112 Commander Red Shirt

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    I get those confused. Which is the Disney+ Show and which is the Avengers movie?
     
  11. Rich Watson

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    I doubt Disney even knows for sure who's in that at this point. On the other hand we have what's basically a S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series starting in a few months.
     
  12. Christopher

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    The 2023 TV series is Secret Invasion (about Skrull infiltrators), the 2026 movie is Avengers: Secret Wars (climax of the Multiverse saga).
     
  13. fireproof78

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    And it's all sponsored by Victoria's Secret.
     
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  14. JD

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    I could see that, or Secret Invasion. Secret Wars is going to most likely deal with the multiverse, so if AoS was not set on Earth 616 then that would be the more likely. But if it was on Earth 616, then she could pop up on Secret Invasion since that's focused on Nick Fury and Maria Hill and she has a lot of history with them. Even if AoS was on a different Earth, they could still introduce a new 616 version in Secret Invasion.
     
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  15. Rich Watson

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    AOS was clearly in the MCU up until the end of Season Four given all of the guest stars who appeared in both the movies and the show.

    My hand-waving is that after they returned from the future in Season Five they were on Earth-615 or -617 where Thanos is defeated before The Snap. And at the end of Season Seven the universe they go back to is the main one again.
     
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  16. JD

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    Yeah, that could work.
     
  17. Christopher

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    Every time I hear that theory, my first impulse is to say "But Doctor Strange saw only one future where they defeated Thanos," and then I correct myself, "No, he only saw one future branching out from that moment where they defeated Thanos. That doesn't rule Thanos having already been defeated earlier in another timeline."

    So I think this is a plausible theory. I think it's still marginally possible that season 6 is in the post-Snap world. It could be that the team just got lucky and didn't have any members dusted, and nobody mentioned the Snap because they were in denial and trying to avoid thinking about it, whereas by Endgame the world had moved on from denial to despair. But that's a reach, and maybe an alternate timeline is a simpler explanation.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    Maybe.

    Doctor Strange 2 had a shorter release time between theatre and Disney+.
     
  19. Mr. Adventure

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    It gives them two weeks before Quantumania to try to hook viewers who didn't see it and clean out the theaters before they start the next big thing.
     
  20. FPAlpha

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    Personally i really only go the movies anymore if i'm really hot for a certain movie and have to see it as soon as possible and also to experience it on the big screen, which usually means blockbuster movies. The ones planned for this year are Ant Man, Guardians 3 and Dune Part Two, that's it for now.

    Everything apart from that i can easily wait a few months before it hits streaming and i've covered most major streaming services. I just am not prepared to pay the ticket prices nowadays for movies i'm not sure will be worth it.

    Wakanda Forever was a kind of letdown for me, it was ok as a Marvel movie but i expected much more and was a bit miffed to have paid so much to see it at the cinema.
     
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