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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Reverend said:
I think you're conflating a working title with a codename. A working title is exactly that; a project title that is meant to be temporary until they think of a better one, because they have to call it *something* while they're making the thing. This is fairly typical with large studio productions as usually the marketing people don't really get all that involved until post production and they can have a significant influence on the final title (but not always.) Indeed a production can go through several working titles over the course of production (pre & post) before then finally settle on a release title.

A codename is as one might surmise is a fake working title chosen to deliberately obfuscate exactly what the project is about, and as such is mostly a bookkeeping thing, used mostly just for locations shoots. Granted they're functionally identical in a sense, but the distinction is one of intent. The former exists because: "fuck it, we need to print something on the receipts!" the latter is because: "we'd rather not have the location shoot swarming with paparazzi & rubbernecks, nor have all the local businesses suddenly put an extra zero on the end of their prices because they think we're made of money."

Incidentally, the latter was the real reason for the now legendary 'Blue Harvest' codename for 'Revenge of the Jedi' (aka: the actual working title of the film.) It was no secret the film was being made. Indeed it was widely reported, which is kinda the point. Star Wars was a known quantity, and would have been recognised if the logo was plastered all over the crew gear and vehicles. It's only partially successful because the minute you start building a giant plywood spaceship out in the Yuma dunes, and Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher & Mark Hamill roll into town, people will put it together. The point is usually to slow the spread of rumours not stop them (because you can't) so by the time the looky-loos and/or the press show up, you're hopefully almost done with the shoot and ready to move elsewhere.
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Oh OK, I've seen code name used for a movie, just working title.
 
Set Harth said:
Yeah, that's why I gave up on it almost at its inception. I'd correct false information only to come back and find that my edits had been removed and the false information restored. No point in playing that game.
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I had that happen too back in the day--but I imagine that tends to happen on some types of pages more than others. I would have school information pages hacked, but never general pages about locales, culture or local history.
 
Good for her, and cool that they're actually willing to nominate people in a superhero movie more often now.

Though honestly I'd have to give the oscar to Stephanie Hsu, personally. Though I haven't seen The Whale or Banshees of Inisherin, either.
 
FreezeC77 said:
Movies are ending up on streaming services faster than when I was a kid and my parents only took me and my brother to the 'second-run' movie theater and you had to wait like 5 or 6 months for the movies to get there lol.
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The first couple of week(end)s are most important unless it's a long burner like Avatar 2, after that the earnings drop very sharply because people just don't go to the movies as much as they used to do and this started before Covid.

Streaming has become much more popular so it makes sense to accelerate the release while people still talk about the movie.
 
FPAlpha said:
The first couple of week(end)s are most important unless it's a long burner like Avatar 2, after that the earnings drop very sharply because people just don't go to the movies as much as they used to do and this started before Covid.

Streaming has become much more popular so it makes sense to accelerate the release while people still talk about the movie.
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Conversely, I thought about going to see Wakanda Forever a second time a week ago but ended up not doing it because I knew it was coming to Disney+ at the beginning of February.

Whereas I saw Black Panther four times in theaters, the fourth being on the same day I saw Infinity War the first time.

I get the reasons for the accelerated release but that still makes me a little sad.
 
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The Nth Doctor said:
Conversely, I thought about going to see Wakanda Forever a second time a week ago but ended up not doing it because I knew it was coming to Disney+ at the beginning of February.

Whereas I saw Black Panther four times in theaters, the fourth being on the same day I saw Infinity War the first time.

I get the reasons for the accelerated release but that still makes me a little sad.
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I didn't even see Wakanda Forever a first time in the cinema. I don't go to the cinema anywhere near as often these days and when I had a free afternoon before Christmas I opted for Violent Night instead, purely because I knew Wakanda Forever would be on Disney+ very soon. I do wonder if Disney are shooting themselves in the foot a little here.

It isn't just Marvel films though, it seems if a film is going to end up on Disney+ it's going to do so very quickly. I saw Nightmare Alley last Feb (I think) and less than a month later I could have seen it on D+, and Menu was barely in the cinemas before Christmas before winding up on Disney+ in early Jan (very good film btw).

Conversely if a film is going to wind up somewhere else like Amazon or Netflix it takes bloody ages! :lol:
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Conversely, I thought about going to see Wakanda Forever a second time a week ago but ended up not doing it because I knew it was coming to Disney+ at the beginning of February.
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Yeah, I had the same thing though I feel a little guilty about it because I'm sure it would be served better in the cinema. I don't have anyone to take at the moment and I hate northern winters which hasn't helped, I haven't completely ruled out going to see it but I more than likely will just wait a week. I enjoy the cinema though but I've only been mildly interested about Wakanda Forever, I plan on seeing Quantumania for sure in the theater.
 
In response to some idiot troll on Twitter who was saying there's no way she'd be hired by Marvel Studios because she's a terrible actor, Chloe Bennet has dropped a serious hint that she is indeed coming back. If true, "Secret Invasion" kind of seems the obvious place.

https://twitter.com/chloebennet/status/1618199756614041600

Hilariously the guy in question dismisses AOS as a soap opera (?!?) and then got owned by people pointing out all the acclaimed actors who came from actual soap operas, including Angela Bassett who's just been nominated for an Oscar for "Wakanda Forever".
 
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