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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Giancarlo Esposito says he's “been in a room and talked” with Marvel Studios to join the franchise. His preference: Professor X.

I'm all for that possibility. I've loved everything he's done from Homicide: Life on the Streets to The Mandalorian to, of course, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. He's best known for playing villains but I would love to see him play a hero.
Oof, no, is my initial reaction. The man is an excellent actor and I don't enjoy him.
 
Really? I don't. I haven't felt that way about the MCU in over half a decade.

Same here; it has been quite awhile since I found a MCU film satisfying to some degree. I believe Captain Marvel may have been the last.


I don't know if there is any franchise I would regard as reliably entertaining. At least not anymore. All of them have been a hit-or-miss to me . . . or just a miss.

Most are in the hit-and-miss category. Its just that the MCU has far more misses than hits, and has now passed the James Bond film franchise in terms of having more disappointing films than winners in its catalog, and that's not good, since the Bond series has suffered from a majority of its entries being underwhelming to awful.
 
But now the situation is different in the first place - this is a new universe and a new Charles.

If they were going to go ahead with a black Xavier, it feels like they should have avoided using Patrick Stewart when they had a clean slate. I mean, 838 Maria Rambeau looks just like 616 Maria Rambeau, 838 Peggy looks just like (younger) 616 Peggy, the actor who played Black Bolt in Inhumans also plays 838 Black Bolt, but suddenly Patrick Stewart becomes Giancarlo Esposito?
 
If they were going to go ahead with a black Xavier, it feels like they should have avoided using Patrick Stewart when they had a clean slate. I mean, 838 Maria Rambeau looks just like 616 Maria Rambeau, 838 Peggy looks just like (younger) 616 Peggy, the actor who played Black Bolt in Inhumans also plays 838 Black Bolt, but suddenly Patrick Stewart becomes Giancarlo Esposito?
Tom Holland suddenly became Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire. :shrug:
 
If they were going to go ahead with a black Xavier, it feels like they should have avoided using Patrick Stewart when they had a clean slate. I mean, 838 Maria Rambeau looks just like 616 Maria Rambeau, 838 Peggy looks just like (younger) 616 Peggy, the actor who played Black Bolt in Inhumans also plays 838 Black Bolt, but suddenly Patrick Stewart becomes Giancarlo Esposito?
But one alternate Loki is an alligator !
 
Tom Holland suddenly became Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire. :shrug:

Yup. It's the same approach as the Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths -- some alternate counterparts are physical doubles, while others are not, depending on whether there was a previous adaptation of those characters with different performers. It's one of those things you just have to shrug off as a storytelling conceit, an excuse for crossing over current and legacy actors, and just not worry about the in-universe logic.

Heck, according to Multiverse of Madness, there's a universe where people are cartoons and a universe where they're paint. So one guy looking different in two universes is fairly easy to accept in comparison.
 
If they were going to go ahead with a black Xavier, it feels like they should have avoided using Patrick Stewart when they had a clean slate. I mean, 838 Maria Rambeau looks just like 616 Maria Rambeau, 838 Peggy looks just like (younger) 616 Peggy, the actor who played Black Bolt in Inhumans also plays 838 Black Bolt, but suddenly Patrick Stewart becomes Giancarlo Esposito?

Why would you even ask that question framed like that "a black Xavier". We all know that Patrick Stewart is not going to be the 616 Xavier if one does appear. The role IS going to need to be recast, and precedent has already been set that in the multiverse, some variations of a character look the same while others do not. Given both of these conditions, the question is only "who will be taking on the role of Xavier?" and there is no limitation as to what skin colour the character should have.
 
I can. Disney is a billion-dollar corporation. They like making money. And they had no qualms about putting the Punisher series on D+ with the rest of the former Netflix shows.

I've read that Marvel has already changed the skull logo because of its use by right wing groups. The Punisher was never meant to be a hero and as long as any series makes that clear then I don't have a problem with a new season.
 
Yeah, I can't find a version of it I can save and post here, but they did change it.
 
Looks like She-Hulk is going all in on minor Marvel characters. It'll be a shame if Jack of Hearts gets relegated to just a joke character though, given their relationship in the comics.

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