Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    18.3%
  2. A

    36.5%
  3. A-

    14.4%
  4. B+

    6.7%
  5. B

    13.5%
  6. B-

    2.9%
  7. C+

    1.9%
  8. C

    3.8%
  9. C-

    1.0%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
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  11. D

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  12. D-

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  13. F

    1.0%
  1. JD

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    I saw a story about that a week or two ago, and I think it would make more sense to see him than not if they are sticking to the comics origin. I guess you could do it all off screen if you absolutely had to, but having him appear would work a lot better IMO.
    Usually I'd just blow something like that off, but the fact that it's coming from someone like Kevin Smith does make this seem at least slightly more likely.
     
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  2. Anwar

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    As fun as it was seeing Jameson reinvented as an Alex Jones' type conspiracy Loon...I'm finding myself realizing how much more interesting if they'd used a more recent version of Jameson from the comics.

    Where he was the popular Mayor of NYC.
     
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    If you want a way to get me back in to Marvel films this would be it.
     
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  5. JD

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    Disney has revealed their new post-COVID 19 release schedule, here are the MCU movies.
    Black Widow - 11/6/20
    The Eternals - 2/12/21
    Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - 5/7/21
    Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness - 11/5/21
    Thor: Love & Thunder - 2/18/22
    Untitled Marvel - removed
    Captain Marvel 2 - 7/8/22
    Captain Marvel 2 had originally been announced as "Untitled Marvel" that was going be released 7/29/22
     
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    At least something's still getting work done on it.
     
  9. JD

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    Yeah, I was a bit surprised to actually hear this kind of news. I guess writing is the kind of thing you can do at home.
     
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    I would imagine lots of folks out in Hollywood are busy with writing right now.

    I wonder if some producers are going to have a busy few weeks coming up this summer, as they field all sorts of pitches from people they work with, once they're allowed to go to lunch with each other again.
     
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    Pre-Production in general shouldn't be massively hindered by the lockdown, since writing and even things like conceptual work & previz can be done remotely, at least to a certain extent. So anything that hasn't reached the casting stage (since that requires booking actors, sound stages & a million other logistical items ahead of time) should be OK-ish. Anything that's further along is going to be stuck in limbo for a while. Even post production work is tricky since you really can't score most movies without a full orchestra and that's obviously a non-starter for the time being.
     
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    In a move said to be coronavirus related, Marvel has canceled its overall deals with Punisher developer Steve Lightfoot and Helstrom showrunner Paul Zbyszewski.

    https://mcucosmic.com/2020/04/21/dont-expect-a-second-season-of-helstrom/

    I wasn't really expecting a second season of Helstrom, but I guess this cements it, doesn't it?

    It seems like a shame. The family of horror based shows that Marvel television and Hulu were developing sounded so promising at first. The news that Gabriel Luna was getting his own Ghost Rider show had me ridiculously happy. And now we're not even getting that, just one season of Helstrom. Ah, what might have been...
     
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    What if Pepper Potts had actually died at the end of Iron Man Three, how might that have changed the subsequent films?
     
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    They'd be unrecognizable because Pepper's the one who actually defeated the bad guy in IM3. Without her, Tony'd be dead from there on out, too.
     
  16. JD

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    So is this pretty much them clearing out the last of the Jeph Loeb era stuff?
     
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    That is one of the bigger Disney MCU crimes - the Marvel Netflix shows were amazing for the most part, especially Daredevil and Punisher, and they were a nice counterweight to the sanitized MCU movies (which i love but they are designed for mass appeal amd maximum profits). I'm not holding my breath that they will bring a "faithful" Netflix Matt Murdock with all the bloody fights into the MCU movies. If he fights it will be in the MCU style with flashy moves, maybe a bloody nose but that's it.

    Disney should rather get over itself and work out a deal with Netflix to let them continue their Marvel shows as both sides profit from them but that would run counter to Disney's desire to have absolute control over all their franchises and properties.
     
  19. JD

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    Oh yeah, if we see any of the Netflix heroes in the movies or on Disney+ they will probably be toned down. The only way I could see the characters appearing in the same style as they did on Netflix is if they show up on Hulu.
     
  20. Anwar

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    I don't see how if they showed up in the movies they'd have to be toned down. I mean, they get as bloody as they do in the shows because usually they're just fighting normal fragile humans.

    Put Daredevil and Punisher up against aliens or supercriminals who don't bruise so easily or are bulletproof. They stay as brutal as they are, but there isn't as much blood because they're fighting a higher class of bad guy.

    I mean really, take Hawkeye/Ronin's rampage against the Yakuza. That could easily be redone to be with Punisher instead and none of the character's edge is lost.