Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Turtletrekker]

He sees "his" future, not Coulson's. The show presents zero evidence to support either position regarding AOS's canonicity.

Correct. And Coulson's resurrection does nothing to affect the conversation between Mobius and Loki. Coulson being technobabbled back to life does nothing to affect the fact that Loki murdered him in cold blood on the helicarrier, nor does it let him off the hook for his actions.

 

[Jayson1]

OK, so I decided to look for myself, and I found this Screen Rant article and an article from Looper that both reference the MCU timeline book, which doesn't include anything from AOS, but according to the Screen Rant article there is a note from Kevin Feige where he says that there are canonical movies and series that are not included in the book because they don't take place in the Sacred Timeline. So this doesn't totally rule out AoS being canon, it just means it doesn't take place on Earth 616.

I can see that but I can also see it as a timeline that was exactly like Earth 616 until maybe the final two seasons. So all the adventures we saw on the show also happened exactly like we saw them happen, also on Earth 616. The divergent point would likely be Earth being destroyed and some of the characters travelling to and back from the future.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

I find it weird to declare the whole of AoS non-canon based on a producer of a different MCU show noting contradictions. As if contradictions never happened before in these big SF universes.
I mean, "Heart of Glory" is not declared non-canon just because the Klingon ship has a Federation insignia on its bridge, "Samaritan Snare" is not declared non-canon because Wesley mentions the Klingons joining the Federation as a part of history. People either ignore these things or create fan-theories about how it actually fits with the rest of canon.

So, unless Feige himself comes straight out saying AoS is non-canon, or the whole of the show is directly contradicted without possibilities to work around it? It is still officially canon. If you don't want it to count, that's your own head-canon.

 

[Christopher]

I find it weird to declare the whole of AoS non-canon based on a producer of a different MCU show noting contradictions. As if contradictions never happened before in these big SF universes.

And of course, different producers can make different choices, or the same ones can change their minds. Daredevil: Born Again was reputedly originally meant to be in a distinct continuity from the Netflix series, but they made it a direct sequel in the reshoots.