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[Mudd]

Insiders Cast Doubt On The Veracity Of Variety's Claims In Recent Marvel Studios' "Hit Piece"

Variety recently took aim at Marvel Studios and the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but several reliable sources have since cast doubt on the trade's claims, suggesting it may be an orchestrated hit piece.

comicbookmovie.com

Not a source of any consequence, compared to Variety, Hollywood Reporter or Deadline.

If anyone's inclined to make shit up, it's Comicbookmovie and its ilk.

They don't even come out for another month, and Supman is already kicking Fantastic Four: First Steps' ass at Box Office.

Which is the opposite of what was expected a month ago.

 

[Set Harth]

Supman is already kicking Fantastic Four: First Steps' ass

Supman? Is that the ghetto version?

 

[Anwar]

Not a source of any consequence, compared to Variety, Hollywood Reporter or Deadline.

None of those three ever provided any named sources or links for their claims either, they just thought they could say so without anything solid.

 

[Mudd]

None of those three ever provided any named sources or links for their claims either, they just thought they could say so without anything solid.

Someone can believe what they like, but there's no "there," there and most folks familiar with the sites in question would know that.

 

[Anwar]

Go ahead and believe what you like, but there's no "there," there.

If Variety, Hollywood Reporter and Deadline think they can just say whatever they want and coast by one their reps alone, not happening.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Not a source of any consequence, compared to Variety, Hollywood Reporter or Deadline.

If anyone's inclined to make shit up, it's Comicbookmovie and its ilk.

Yeah, that article--from 2023--makes some at Comicbookmovie come off as a group of desperate MCU fanboys trying to "protect" it from the reality of troubles over the past few years, which does not address the recent Fiege statement (along with other Marvel employees) discussing the troubles with MCU films and its future (posted here over the past two months).

 

[Jayson1]

Supman? Is that the ghetto version?

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[BillJ]

This movie run has been going on twenty years, an incredible streak, but people are going to burn out eventually regardless of quality.

 

[Jayson1]

I know I am getting tired of comic book movies, yet at the same time I do feel more anticipated excitement with what James Gunn might be doing with DC than anything happening with the MCU lately. I was really bored watching the last Captain America movie and Daredevil. I did like Agatha and Deadpool and Wolverine but the later, almost feels like it doesn't even count

. Am looking forward to seeing Thunderbolts when it comes to tv, because it looks good but I have almost zero interest in Ironheart because the character wasn't interesting in Black Panther 2 and lots of my interest with Fantastic Four went away when they said they were going to water down the Johnny Storm character.

On the other hand I am pretty excited for both Superman and Supergirl and the upcoming season of Peacemaker.

 

[Set Harth]

and lots of my interest with Fantastic Four went away when they said they were going to water down the Johnny Storm character.

Well of course you gotta water him down, he's ON FIRE!!!!

 

[fireproof78]

Well of course you gotta water him down, he's ON FIRE!!!!

Happy Father's Day. Here's a dad joke.

 

[Mage]

This movie run has been going on twenty years, an incredible streak, but people are going to burn out eventually regardless of quality.

That is a fair point indeed. Five years ago, if I missed a movie in theaters, I couldn't wait to watch it on Disney+. It took my until to watch the latest Captain America. I had time before, just didn't feel like it. Mind you, I watched Thunderbolts in theaters as soon as I could.

 

[BillJ]

That is a fair point indeed. Five years ago, if I missed a movie in theaters, I couldn't wait to watch it on Disney+. It took my until to watch the latest Captain America. I had time before, just didn't feel like it. Mind you, I watched Thunderbolts in theaters as soon as I could.

I don't think the mountain of Disney+ series has helped the film franchise either.

 

[Mage]

I don't think the mountain of Disney+ series has helped the film franchise either.

I have so much to catch up on. Mostly because I don't have a lot of time, and when I do, I don't have the attention span to process new things. Combination of being on the spectrum and burn-out.

 

[BillJ]

I have so much to catch up on. Mostly because I don't have a lot of time, and when I do, I don't have the attention span to process new things. Combination of being on the spectrum and burn-out.

It happened to me with Star Trek. Just too much. There comes a point where people get dizzy on the merry-go-round.

 

[JD]

None of those three ever provided any named sources or links for their claims either, they just thought they could say so without anything solid.

Sorry but I'm always going to take the word of the three top entertainment news sources over a site that, I believe, has a pretty bad reputation when it comes to it's reliability.
And really, as long as the movies are doing well enough for them to continue making them, that's all I care about. And as far as I know, there has not been any word yet on them stopping, so I don't really see where it's worth getting that worked up over how much money they are or aren't making. And even if they do stop making MCU movies, we've gotten 36 movie, 18 shorts, and 26 TV series (this is from Wikipedia, which includes Inhumans, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, and Helstrom, but I'm not sure if they really fit into the MCU) in 17 years and that is a damn good run, so we really have nothing to complain about. It was inevitable that the enthusiasm for the MCU was going to start to drop off after a while, it always does for every franchise.

 

[Christopher]

And even if they do stop making MCU movies, we've gotten 36 movie, 18 shorts, and 26 TV series (this is from Wikipedia, which includes Inhumans, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, and Helstrom, but I'm not sure if they really fit into the MCU)

I think Helstrom was not meant to be part of the MCU, not by the time it aired. The others were intended to be part of the MCU and have continuity links to other MCU shows. Inhumans makes some reference to the Inhuman storyline on Agents of SHIELD. Runaways features the same version of the Darkhold that appeared in AoS, and had a crossover appearance by Cloak & Dagger. And C&D referenced Luke Cage. (Although Runaways' third season depicted time travel in a way that contradicted Endgame's temporal theory, and had a version of Nico Minoru incompatible with the bit character credited by that name in Doctor Strange.)

 

[Turtletrekker]

Helstrom was originally going to be a part of a series of Marvel shows on Hulu featuring Marvel horror characters, and it was supposed to be as much part of the MCU as the ABC shows and the Netflix shows. Take from you will from that. There was also supposed to be a Ghost Rider show as part of this initiative that spun out of Agents of SHIELD. This was announced when Runaways was still running on Hulu, so it was just an expansion of their existing relationship with Marvel Television. However, when the old Marvel Television division was folded into the Marvel Studios umbrella under Kevin Feige, all of those plans got canceled and Helstrom was the only one that moved forward as it was already in production. When it was released, all of the connections to it being a Marvel property were downplayed to the point of it being hard to determine that it actually was a Marvel property. But that was a decision made after Marvel Studios absorbed Marvel's Television.

‘Ghost Rider,’ ‘Helstrom’ Live-Action Shows Ordered at Hulu

"Ghost Rider" and "Helstrom" are coming to Hulu.

variety.com

Why Helstrom Was Dead On Arrival (Thanks To Marvel)

Marvel's indifference damned Helstrom's prospects.

screenrant.com

 

[theenglish]

It happened to me with Star Trek. Just too much. There comes a point where people get dizzy on the merry-go-round.

I'm there with Star Wars. I never got around to watching any of the Mandelorian era after Boba Fett. I still have to watch The Acolyte and Skeleton Crew.