Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

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  1. Allyn Gibson

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    Marvel Legacy #1 -- It was okay. It worked.

    There isn't a lot of story here, and what story there is could probably be told in about 22 pages -- Loki sends a team of Frost Giants to Earth to steal an artifact from a SHIELD facility, whereupon they're met by Thor, Falcon, and Ironheart, and meanwhile Ghost Rider goes to South Africa (as a dream/sleep drive, somehow crossing oceans) and is attacked by Star Brand who is trying to keep from from waking something buried there. Everything else about the issue that bulks it out amounts to a one or two page blurb showing readers the post-Secret Empire set-up for various Marvel characters. The prologue with the "Avengers" of 1 million BCE works in a vacuum on its own terms (ie., ignore history, anthropology, and biology), the framing device for the issue didn't work for me (as I have no emotional investment in those characters), the big character return near the end was fine, and there's a big Kirby-esque idea at the heart of this (which made me think of 2001 rather than the Eternals, to be honest).

    It didn't resonate for me the way DC Universe Rebirth #1 did. There were no moments where I went, "Oh my god," like I did with DC's similarly positioned book. But Marvel Legacy #1 accomplishes similar things; the characters recognize how fucked up things are and yearn for happier times. It's more course correction than bold new direction, imho.
     
  2. JD

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  3. Turtletrekker

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    Utterly tone-deaf on many levels. The only thing interesting about that announcement was Red Ronin.
     
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  5. M'rk son of Mogh

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    I had to look up the company.
    Why are they teaming up? They certainly don't need the money or exposure?

    That's the only thing that baffles me, really.
     
  6. JD

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    Most of the companies DC and Marvel have teamed up with have been popular big companies, so I don't think it's necessarily about the money or awareness. DC just did a comic with KFC's Colonel Sanders teaming up with someone, I think possibly the JL or Superman.
     
  7. JD

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  8. kirk55555

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    Ok, I'm catching up on a bit of a backlog and I just read Mighty Captain Marvel #9. In it, carol hangs out with Jessica Drew and Jessica Jones. Jessica Jones offers to watch Jessica Drew's kid, and everyone acts like its a bad idea, and they bring up Jessica's drinking, etc. This is a problem, because

    JESSICA JONES HAS A DAUGHTER SHE HAS BEEN RISING FOR ATLEAST 2-3 YEARS IN UNIVERSE. WHY ARE THEY ACTING LIKE SHE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF A KID?

    I know that shitty Bendis series that came out a few months a go tried to reset Jessica by having her steal and hide her baby from Luke Cage for absolutely no reason while also separating them (because everything in the comics must resemble the MCU even if the MCU version is inferior), but where the fuck did Danielle Cage go? She still existed after Battleworld, so there has been no event capable of retconning her since I last saw her in a comic. I swear to god, if they pulled a Catwoman and just made the kid disappear into adoption I will lose my mind. None of the wiki's say anything about her being gone, so is this just the Captain Marvel writer being a moron who only knows Jessica from Alias and the Netflix show, or has something really screwed up happened and the wikis just haven't updated?
     
  9. Turtletrekker

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    If you're interested in reading the cancelled comic Marvel made with defense contractor Northrop Grumman, Io9 got it's hands on a copy.

    In the never to happen second issue, the NG team was going to fight Ultron. In my head cannon, the issue is 3 pages of Ultron killing the team and 19 pages lingering on their dead bodies...
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    The NRA in an MCU attacked by Ultron 3 times a year, Aliens twice a week while Mutants and Inhuman continuously riot in the streets, would have to be doing very well, if it wasn't for the super scientists making plasma cannons easily available on Ebay.
     
  12. JD

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    It will be very interesting to see what kinds of changes Cebulski makes.
     
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  14. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Just like 80 years ago, we're going back to radio dramas like the old Superman ones?
     
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  15. JD

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    Sounds like it. I didn't even realize these kinds of scripted podcasts were a thing until fairly recently.
     
  16. Alidar Jarok

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    I have Stitcher. If it's free, I might subscribe and maybe download. If he gets the Wolverine voice right, I'll keep going.
     
  17. RJDiogenes

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    Very interesting. I love OTR, and I've even produced an OTR homage myself. I might give this a listen.

    For those interested, there was recently a Futurama "scripted podcast" (as good a name as any, I suppose), too, which was pretty good. And there's a company called Big Finish which produces audio dramas of Doctor Who, as well as other shows-- I'm not so familiar with those, but they have a good reputation. And the Lovecraft Historical Society has produced a bunch of great adaptations of HPL's work. I wonder what else is out there.
     
  18. JD

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  19. Alidar Jarok

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    The "Women of Marvel" sale includes stuff for Captain Mar-Vell.
     
  20. JD

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    Isn't Carol Danvers a supporting character in his books?