Lorca: Fans Will Have To Adjust

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  1. Dry Bones 37

    Dry Bones 37 Admiral Admiral

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    I completely disagree with this point of view.
    Interesting visual.

    But, yeah, TMP pretty much shocked my TOS sensibilities.
     
  2. kirk55555

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    Well, since TMP came out 11 years before I was born then TWOK came out 8 years before I was born, I really had no opinion. TNG was my first Trek, and still my favorite (with DS9 being a close second) although TWOK is my favorite movie (not just Trek or Sci Fi, but movies overall) of all time, not that its relevant to anything.

    That said, the changes in those movies were still a lot less then the junk Discovery is doing, plus they were actually improvements (well, ok, TWOK had improvements, TMP is just mostly mediocre).
     
  3. Dry Bones 37

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    TMP's changes are no less shocking that DSCs.
     
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  4. Ithekro

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    There just wasn't an Internet to allow for several months of "shock and horror" from the fandom to circle the planet every day until the film was released.
     
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    TMP's were even more shocking. Since Phase II never made it to air and the planned Paramount TV network was scrapped before it could ever launch most fans and casual audience members never saw the TMP set designs, uniforms and props before the first movie's earliest production images were released to the public. Discovery is a radical reimagining of the aesthetics we're familiar with in the general TOS timeframe but Klingons are still gruff, intimidating aliens with cranial ridges and warp speed is still depicted with cool special effects showing a ship zipping along at an incredible velocity.

    When TMP hit theaters the changes to the Klingons were far more seismic than even Discovery's makeup designs and the look of the 1979-era Enterprise compared to the 1969 television incarnation of the vessel couldn't have been more stark in many respects. With the Discovery we've had almost 38 uninterrupted years of seeing modern ideas about Starfleet ships and alien races on both the small and big screens so the newest series isn't that big a change of pace from what we've been used to over the past three decades.

    DSC is a very noticeable aesthetic shift. TMP was a revolution and a jump far bigger than any other franchise of this size has ever attempted after a hiatus and change in audience tastes and expectations.
     
  6. GhostLoveScore

    GhostLoveScore Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    That's not true. TMP didn't have so many Star Trek episodes behind it. Changes in Discovery are simply way of saying - screw the past episodes, we can do better.

    They are dismissing a thousand episodes of visual style just to fulfill their own wish to create new star trek universe.
     
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  7. ozzfloyd

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    Good.
     
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  8. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    I think this is an assumption that a segment of the fanbase are making for themselves. At no point have the show runners said they can 'do better' or been disrespectful to what came before. In fact it's been the opposite. Visual changes are just a reality of Discovery being made in 2017.

    And if they are creating a new trek universe why is that a bad thing?
     
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  9. GhostLoveScore

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    Because there already is a star trek universe.
     
  10. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    Well actually there is two. The prime timeline and the Kelvin timeline. The 741 previous episodes aren't going to magically disappear if a third trek universe was created.
     
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  11. Dry Bones 37

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    So? There was already an establish look to the Star Trek series, and yet they added more to it, after a ten year gap.
     
  12. GhostLoveScore

    GhostLoveScore Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    The problem is that they didn't add to it, they overwritten it.
     
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  13. GhostLoveScore

    GhostLoveScore Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    It was said that this is prime universe. Not third parallel universe.
     
  14. Dry Bones 37

    Dry Bones 37 Admiral Admiral

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    Overwritten what exactly? I keep hearing this but I don't seem to have the issues that others have.
     
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    Cool so it's a visual reboot of the prime timeline that takes advantage of today's special effects.
     
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    Hey, a lot of people like TMP.
     
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    They did it just to spite you.
     
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    Keep our Trek pure!
     
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  19. Agony_Boothb

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    It's basically the Trekdom version of the 'gay agenda'. A nebulous, non-existent conspiracy theory made up by people afraid of change.
     
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    I like change fine.

    What does that have to do with Discovery?