Lorca: Fans Will Have To Adjust
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Isaacs said "I don't care if Trek fans die"Worst game of "Telephone" ever!
Disgree. I was a fan of oldBSG and didn't initially like some of the changes like the gender swap and so forth because they felt unncesesary. However somewhere around mid-1st season I finally came around and realized that while this is a different sow then oldBSG, it is a really good show and stopped thinking about the differences and enjoyed what they were putting out.
I think after the show airs it will be easy to identify those who hate it just because it is different and those who have valid critiisms of things that happen in the show. The former will still be the group complaining about bald klingons, delta shouldn't be used and think CBS hates all the fans. The latter group will have complaints about plot and character and things that happen during the show.
It is harder to tell the different right now (except for the "CBS is the devil" group) because we don't know much plot information yet but it will be easier after it airs to tell valid vs emotional criticism apart.
I was deeply disturbed by the daytime edit of Drive Angry on my last stay in the US. "Shooting" and "blinding" while blowing people's fucking heads off. What is wrong with you Americans.
That has nothing to do with whether or not Trek is or has been "family fare".
No it makes the question "just what about Discovery warrants the TVMA rating? That's the big question really on if it will be remotely close to what older fans would still consider "family fare" based on the older series. Violence gets a quicker pass in America and depending on how graphic (or perhaps how long it is on the screen) would more likely give it a lower rating than that. But sexual content or profanity would bump it to TVMA pretty quickly (puritan values still effect the system).
So, you whined about it, before you came around? And you understand I was speaking about aggregates, right? Exceptions don't contradict trends.
What's a "daytime edit?"
I may be using the wrong term (in the UK, we have our 9pm watershed, after which shows can feature swearing, violence, nudity etc), but a version of the film shown with all the swearing dubbed in various silly ways, but all the violence intact.
It's usually two-stage in the UK. They recieve a requested "UK edit" which removes anything they don't want at all ahead of time, formatted for PAL broadcast speeds etc as well.
Then they have the full length version for post 9pm and post 10pm (depending on which they think it suits best) and one edited a lot more for 9am-9pm broadcast.
This isn't just an American phenomenon, American films meant for an international audience are allowed to ramp up the violence, but keep the sexy sex to a minimum and avoid excessive cursing.
Violence doesn't seem to trip over as many cultural "red lines" as does sexy sex and profanity.
There's no rule per se that I know of here. How much violence is left in a movie may have more to do with the venue than the hour - there are probably still kinds of violence and sex that the broadcast networks would cut but that are not considered problematic on premium cable channels.
Cable channels that aren't premium seem to focus on eliminating the nips, the sh**s and the f***s.
Broadcast television is all over the place.
Streaming networks have weird rules for applying ratings.
Basically, there is no way to really tell what is and isn't going to be edited out, or used as a basis for the "MA" rating.
I think it depends on the particular international area the movie is being exported to. In certain East Asian countries, violent content that would be rated R in the US will get the equivalent of a PG, whereas the least bit of sexuality will skyrocket it to a restrictive rating. Europe tends toward the opposite; frank depictions of sexuality are no big deal, whereas "The Dark Knight" got the most restrictive rating possible in Denmark and the Netherlands due to the violence. And France seems to give just about everything an "all audiences" rating, even movies that get rated R for sexual content in the US.
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The TV edits of films (UK, US, or otherwise) in the 80s and early 90s were a certain kind of special.
I remember back in those years, some movie with Mick Jagger (of all people 
), in which Mick's character is confronting some other dude, and the dude asks him "Do you know who you're talking to? Mick's dubbed-for-TV response is "Yeah, an airhead!" And the other guy goes off on him for that. 
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), in which Mick's character is confronting some other dude, and the dude asks him "Do you know who you're talking to? Mick's dubbed-for-TV response is "Yeah, an airhead!" And the other guy goes off on him for that. Kor
I haven't been reading this whole thread, but the title confuses me every time I see it. Does it mean:
1. Fans will have to adjust to Lorca's character?
2. In the pilot, Captain Lorca says "Fans will have to adjust" while talking about the ventilation system on Discovery?
3. Jason Isaacs said "Fans will have to adjust to Discovery", and the OP thought his name was actually Lorca?
If it's option 3, can a mod please fix this!
1. Fans will have to adjust to Lorca's character?
2. In the pilot, Captain Lorca says "Fans will have to adjust" while talking about the ventilation system on Discovery?
3. Jason Isaacs said "Fans will have to adjust to Discovery", and the OP thought his name was actually Lorca?
If it's option 3, can a mod please fix this!
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