Spoilers Loki discussion thread

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  1. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    No, not ignore. Question. You should always question what Loki says and go from there.

    That's so awesome!
     
  2. Turtletrekker

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    I'm hoping it's because she chose to be female.
     
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    Given that none of the other Lokis had ever heard of another female Loki it seems like that was part of it. My head canon is that a lot of Loki's shapeshifting ability is subconscious, that's why he changed from blue to white when Odin found him as an infant. Sylvie ended up being female because as a child she and Thor learned about the Valkyries both became fascinated by them. This initial spark of interest caused her to change shape and she stayed that way because it felt right to her. This might be how she learned she was adopted since no one else in the family can do this, so Odin and Frigga probably had a long conversation with the kids. Eventually this hero worship probably would've lead to her trying to join them instead of the usual Loki villain path.
     
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    When I saw “old man” Loki…I remember Hans Conried’s 70’s voice-over work.

    If only they had a fez wearing Matt Smith Loki:

    “Horns are cool.”
     
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  5. Alidar Jarok

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    It did feel like a commentary on trans erasure when I first saw it, but it seems to me that she was selected for pruning after that point, so I'm questioning it a bit more. It feels that she was always a female-presenting Loki and the TVA got involved a few years later.
     
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    Matt Smith as a Loki. How perfect would that be?
     
  7. Awesome Possum

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    She’s clearly coded as trans, especially when it comes to her treating Loki as a dead name.
     
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    I thought they said outright that Loki banished Odin to Earth and stole the throne?
     
  9. The Nth Doctor

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    Has anyone else watched The Good, The Bart, and The Loki yet? I think it came out back on Wednesday but I only just remembered to watch it.

    It's only a few minutes long and it has all of your typical Simpson and MCU jokes, complete with self-deprecation of each of them and how Disney owns them both now, but it's made fun because Tom Hiddleston is all in. Most of the Springfield denizens as Avengers didn't really work, although Selma and Patty as Wanda and Agnes was a nice touch...and Hans Moleman as, well, Mole Man, was perfection. I particularly enjoyed the post-credits scene with Simpsonfied Judge Renslayer reading Loki the riot act because of all of his terrible deeds.
     
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    Loki switching places with Bart because the Simpsons were a more stable home for him was my favorite part.
     
  11. The Nth Doctor

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    ...and then Homer just rolls with it when he accidently stumbles on the truth because godly magic! :lol:
     
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    When the Simpsons started they were protested for being too dysfunctional a family. Then just a decade later they were called the ‘Most moral show on television’ and attacked from the other side for being too wholesome an preachy.

    The Simpsons didn’t change, we just admitted to ourselves as a culture that the seemingly perfect families were just the ones where the conflict was pushed below the surface, and a family where everyone loves each other and accepts each other at the end of the day is about as wholesome as you get in the real world.
     
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    So I'm calling the Big Bad as another Loki.
     
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  14. Turtletrekker

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    Loki always was his own worst enemy.
     
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    Perhaps, but timelines only get pruned when they diverge too much and start approaching the Redline. Angle of divergence of Sylvie's timeline looks to have been very shallow. It took years for it to slowly creep away far enough to get noticed by the TVA. There could also be a later event that could cause the line to make a sudden turn towards the redline. They have left the mystery open deliberately, so hopefully next episode we find out.
     
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  16. Jedi_Master

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    My vote is Doctor Doom. God-Emperor Doom.
     
  17. The Nth Doctor

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    If any previously unintroduced villain shows up, it's going to be Kang because of all of the obvious (and not so obvious) references to him. But as much as I hope that it'll be him, I'm leaning towards agreeing with others that it makes more sense for it to be a Loki variant. That said, I'm still fully expecting the post-credits scene will feature Kang a la The Avengers.
     
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  18. The Doctor

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    I'm wondering if it'll be another _Sylvie_. It'll be her or another Loki.
     
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    After just seeing President Loki, I feel another dark Loki would just be redundant. Mobius being the man behind the curtain makes the most sense to me, if a little repetitive of having your villain in plain sight ala Wandavision. Although I suppose Mobius truly has his memories erased and doesn't remember. Plus it would be quite a kick to see Owen Wilson play a villain. I don't think he ever has before?
     
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  20. The Doctor

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    President Loki was a gag, dispensed with in less than 5 minutes. I don't think that precludes a Loki or Sylvie pulling the strings on a grander scale.