Litverse & Star Trek '09

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Christopher, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They descended? :D
     
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  2. trampledamage

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    I love that your post makes sense even without the story idea - and thank you for editing it out.
     
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  3. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

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    Thanks! When I read the edit back to myself I actually gave it a sensible chuckle.
     
  4. JWolf

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    It's still a story idea.
     
  5. trampledamage

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    It's not specific enough to count as a story idea for this forum "After the incident that crippled the Romulan Empire" could be anything.
     
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    @Andy Hong. Hate to be the one to point this out this time, but you can't post story ideas like that here. Better edit your post.
     
  7. Andy Hong

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    Oh....did that count as a story idea? I thought it was a "fix plot hole/thing that didn't make sense in the movie" idea. Hmm....I'll shift or repost in the Movies thread.
     
  8. GarethW_1

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    Hello, everyone
    New around these parts. Longtime Trek fan, but after years away, have only recently started reading the novels again - specifically the post-Nemesis relaunch stuff.
    I must say, this thread has made for some fascinating reading. I had somehow thought that the novels would simply ignore the nuTrek stuff; I hadn't realised the full extent of the rights/licensing issues at play.
    If I may ask a question, though? Much of this thread talks about the destruction of Romulus and how much the novel writers can - or can't - refer to it. But what of the Countdown comic book? Is that held in the same category as the '09 film itself? Will the novels have to dance around things like Data being captain of the Enterprise-E (which seems impossible) or can they just ignore those things as they didn't happen in the actual film?
    Thanks.
     
  9. Christopher

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    Different tie-ins are never obligated to refer to each other; they only have to stay consistent with screen canon. Despite how it has sometimes been promoted and talked about, Countdown is not canonical any more than any other book or comic. The novel continuity has already contradicted Countdown in a number of ways, particularly where Data and B-4 are concerned, and it would be pretty much impossible to get Picard, Worf, and Geordi from their current 2386 status in the novels to their 2387 status in Countdown in such a short span of story time.
     
  10. GarethW_1

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    Thank you for the reply. I had thought that would be the most likely case.

    I certainly don't envy the dance you and your fellow writers have to do around, over, and in-between these types of situations.

    Having said that, though, I suppose it probably doesn't come up much these days except in relation to the new films. I can't imagine there are any lingering issues from the TNG/DS9/VOY TV days that the writers have to steer clear of, are there?)
     
  11. Jinn

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    Pocket has to renew and renegotiat its Trek liscence every now and then (last time was in 2012) but unless something goes horribly wrong there shouldn't be any problems.
     
  12. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

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    I remember a time when the novels weren't allowed to acknowledge The Animated Series, or reference events from any other novels. I hope one day the current novelverse/Kelvin movie divide seems similarly silly.
     
  13. Jarvisimo

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    Soooo... from the preview on Amazon, Enigma Tales is set 3 years after Garak became Castellan. Which suggests 2388-9 (!!!!)

    After three years, Garak wore the castellanship lightly and with considerable style. He had taken to the job like a riding-hound released onto the wide Veletur plains, savoring the theatricality, the busyness, and what he called the “varied and variable reading.” He had thought when he embarked upon this project that he might like aspects of the job—certainly he believed he was duty-bound to take it on—but he had never expected to enjoy it quite so thoroughly. Moreover, people seemed to like what he was doing. His advisors—an achingly young and committed set of individuals—were constantly saying things like “Great job!” and “Stunning!” and “Castellan, you are unique!” and had a vexing habit of using slang that made him feel old. Commentators on the ’casts sometimes muttered phrases like “new Golden Age imminent,” and his popularity was high. And sometimes, sometimes Kelas Parmak said, “That was well done, Elim,” and Garak would smile and be content.
     
  14. King Daniel Paid CBS Plant

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    *insert head exploding gif*
     
  15. Jarvisimo

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    It does skip certain issues if true, and its on the other side of the Fed right (except In the Pale Moonlight and even the connections seen in A Stitch in Time suggest a common or close enough border?)
     
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    OK, that is unexpected.
     
  18. Jedi Ben

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    It would be quite elegant as solutions go.

    Can also function as a reason for the start of what looks to be the Gamma series with Original Sin too.
     
  19. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

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    Maybe time jumps are a-comin'. And maybe this time they'll all be elegant.
     
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  20. USS Firefly

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    Finally!
     
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