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Little things in Trek that just bug you...

Not really. It's implied that in Trek everyone's basic needs are taken care of. You are given housing, food is free, clothing is free, entertainment is open source.
I've never seen or heard of this implication you speak of. True the people on Earth live a materially comfortable lifestyle, but where are you seeing that they're not providing for themselves? Everyone would seem to be employed (or attached to someone who is), Bashir's father bounced between jobs, but he had jobs.

IIRC Vico was the only person said to have been unemployed and Picard was noticeable surprise when he learned the young man in front of him didn't have a job.

the bar doesn't get the credits
How then (under the system you describe) does the bar acquire the bar itself? The building (or space) furnishings, supplies, power, food, what not.

, the credits vanish
And suppose someone wanted to emigrate from Earth, and establish themselves on a planet that doesn't have the system you describe? With no accumulated money, how would they pay for passage and set themselves up. No matter how hard someone works under your system you could never save up. I take it you would be unable to invest and grow your money, because apparently you don't have money to start with.

You're trapped on Earth.

Kirk: "Carter Winston has acquired a dozen fortunes only to use his wealth time and again to assist Federation colonies in times of need or disaster. "

Why would those colonies be in a position to receive assistance from a private individual if everything was provided to them by the Federation fairy godmother?
 
Everyone except Darmok speaks English (oh yeah, um, universal translator!) and Ensign Sato and Nuhura speak whatever alien langauage you want after hearing 5 vocabulary words (totally not supernatural though).

Actually, the universal translator did translate the words from Tamarian to English, but because the Tamarians spoke in metaphors that the Federation had no references for, understanding came a little late.
 
How totally, utterly and completely useless and incompetent security officers are.

"Security to transporter room 2"

What on earth for?

The 6 of them have no chance of stopping the one rogue alien.
 
Not giving Riker or Worf a office. I mean you think with those jobs they would come with additional work beyond just manning their stations.

Jason
I think we did see Riker's office once, we did see Data's office several times.

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TNG band phaser 2 can take off the top of mountain according to Roddenberry, but thin walls and furniture can stop the beam if you hide behind them.

No sweeping phaser beams at all- just point, shoot, re-aim, shoot again. Why not just hold the firing button down and sweep the beam around to get your target?
 
I think we did see Riker's office once, we did see Data's office several times.

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TNG band phaser 2 can take off the top of mountain according to Roddenberry, but thin walls and furniture can stop the beam if you hide behind them.

No sweeping phaser beams at all- just point, shoot, re-aim, shoot again. Why not just hold the firing button down and sweep the beam around to get your target?

I've had the same thought.

The Klingon Commandant on Rura Penthe did this in TUC. You see Data and Yar do a version of it to focus fire on the EP607 in "Arsenal of Freedom"

Otherwise, though...it really does seem like an underused functionality of a pure beam weapon.
 
I've never seen or heard of this implication you speak of. True the people on Earth live a materially comfortable lifestyle, but where are you seeing that they're not providing for themselves? Everyone would seem to be employed (or attached to someone who is), Bashir's father bounced between jobs, but he had jobs.

IIRC Vico was the only person said to have been unemployed and Picard was noticeable surprise when he learned the young man in front of him didn't have a job.

How then (under the system you describe) does the bar acquire the bar itself? The building (or space) furnishings, supplies, power, food, what not.

And suppose someone wanted to emigrate from Earth, and establish themselves on a planet that doesn't have the system you describe? With no accumulated money, how would they pay for passage and set themselves up. No matter how hard someone works under your system you could never save up. I take it you would be unable to invest and grow your money, because apparently you don't have money to start with.

You're trapped on Earth.

Kirk: "Carter Winston has acquired a dozen fortunes only to use his wealth time and again to assist Federation colonies in times of need or disaster. "

Why would those colonies be in a position to receive assistance from a private individual if everything was provided to them by the Federation fairy godmother?

Here's the argument you are currently engaged with:

"I disagree with capitalism so I am going to project my own beliefs and values (communinsim/socialism in this case) into what I believe Star Trek is preaching."

People do the same thing with the military and religion arguments. It's about as dead-end as it gets.
 
In TNG, everybody's hiding over the poles. "The ship just vanished!", they're hiding over the planet's north/south pole. "We can't outrun them!", "Hide over the pole." Its the all-natural, farm fresh cloaking device.
 
No sweeping phaser beams at all- just point, shoot, re-aim, shoot again. Why not just hold the firing button down and sweep the beam around to get your target?

The Klingon Commandant on Rura Penthe did this in TUC. You see Data and Yar do a version of it to focus fire on the EP607 in "Arsenal of Freedom"

Otherwise, though...it really does seem like an underused functionality of a pure beam weapon.

I seem to remember Tuvok did a wide beam dispersal once in "Cathexis". Apparently it was set to kill.
 
As has been mentioned before the fact that all races have the same haircuts and fashion styles. The positioning of starships as if they are in traffic when in reality they would be nowhere near as close to each other as they were. The fact that they leave shuttlecraft in orbit unattended, I find it amazing that no alien race has ever come along and not stolen the shuttlecraft or stripped it for parts. And as much as I love DS9, Sisko letting crew members borrow the runabouts for vacations, they were the main transport for the station and in cases of emergency, they never should have been loaned out for something so trivial.
 
And as much as I love DS9, Sisko letting crew members borrow the runabouts for vacations, they were the main transport for the station and in cases of emergency, they never should have been loaned out for something so trivial.
Now that you mention that, DS9 should have had their own fleet of shuttlecraft in addition to the runabouts.
 
23rd Century Stardates, especially in Discovery. They're even worse than TOS. They start in the 1000s, go up to the 2000s, go back to the 1000s, then they're in the 4000s. Not a spoiler because I'm not spoiling anything that matters.
 
23rd Century Stardates, especially in Discovery. They're even worse than TOS. They start in the 1000s, go up to the 2000s, go back to the 1000s, then they're in the 4000s. Not a spoiler because I'm not spoiling anything that matters.
Roddenberry's original idea was that stardates would not only indicate time, but also location. Therefore, it would be conceivable that it could be stardate 2390.4 in one region of space, and stardate 6583.5 at the exact same time in a different region of space.

Even at least one version of the TNG writer's/director's guide indicated that stardates would advance in non-linear order.
 
Roddenberry's original idea was that stardates would not only indicate time, but also location. Therefore, it would be conceivable that it could be stardate 2390.4 in one region of space, and stardate 6583.5 at the exact same time in a different region of space.

Even at least one version of the TNG writer's/director's guide indicated that stardates would advance in non-linear order.
All of which is after-the-fact rationalization. Stardates were conceived so the show wouldn't be tied down to any specific year or century (though there were already references to TOS taking place roughly 200 years in the future in "Tomorrow is Yesterday" and "Space Seed"). Stardates didn't always progress consecutively because airdate order differed from production order.
 
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Sub-Space Chatter, both people are in totally different areas of space.

Person #1: I'll contact you again on Stardate 1421.8.

Person #2: What are you talking about? It's Stardate 1821.4 over here!

Person #1: Argh!!!! Fine, I'll contact again in 24 hours! That better?

Person #2: We need a new system.

Person #1: Why don't we just use the Calendar we use on my world?

Person #2: Why do we have to use your Calendar? Why can't we use mine?!
 
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Sub-Space Chatter, both people are in totally different areas of space.

Person #1: I'll contact you again on Stardate 1421.8.

Person #2: What are you talking about? It's Stardate 1821.4 over here!

Person #1: Argh!!!! Fine, I'll contact again in 24 hours! That better?

Person #2: "24 hours? The planet where our colony is located on is on a 32-hour clock. Will you stop trying to inconvenience me or wake me up in the middle of the night?!"
 
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I've never seen or heard of this implication you speak of. True the people on Earth live a materially comfortable lifestyle, but where are you seeing that they're not providing for themselves? Everyone would seem to be employed (or attached to someone who is), Bashir's father bounced between jobs, but he had jobs.
Because they basically say this in TNG? That there is no poverty, no private ownership etc. You still have jobs but people don't work for money, they are most likely repaid in credits for their labour/energy.

How then (under the system you describe) does the bar acquire the bar itself? The building (or space) furnishings, supplies, power, food, what not.
They're basically provided them and sponsored by the Federation I mean, USSR and such still had bars, restaurants, night clubs etc.

And suppose someone wanted to emigrate from Earth, and establish themselves on a planet that doesn't have the system you describe? With no accumulated money, how would they pay for passage and set themselves up.
They petition the Federation for resources or engage with the non-Federation economy.

No matter how hard someone works under your system you could never save up. I take it you would be unable to invest and grow your money, because apparently you don't have money to start with.
And? You live in a society with completely different material conditions. You do not need money. You do not need to invest. everything is provided for you. TNG clearly states there is no private property within the Federation economy. The concept of capital and capitalist investment is completely alien to Jake.
Why do you need to "Save up to invest"? You don't live in Capitalism. Credits exist, but socially necessary labour and energy, not capital is what credits represent.

Kirk: "Carter Winston has acquired a dozen fortunes only to use his wealth time and again to assist Federation colonies in times of need or disaster. "
Again, Private business exists outside the Federation. So it's easy for Carter Winston to interact with the non-Federation economy and make money.
In TOS we see that Replicators don't exist (but synthesizers do) and resources are still carted around by cargo ships. There are plenty of reasons a colony may need to interact with the non-Federation economy if say, a cargo ship was destroyed by Klingons.

Also in TOS, the writers nor Roddenberry had really conceived of a larger Trek setting. I mean, for much of TOS, the Federation doesn't even exist. Most of Star Trek's world building started with the films and TNG and thus we have to project back onto TOS the worldbuilding that came later with the New World Economy.

"I disagree with capitalism so I am going to project my own beliefs and values (communinsim/socialism in this case) into what I believe Star Trek is preaching."
The Federation is clearly a Socialist society and not Capitalist. This is pretty clearly stated time and time again in TNG, Voyager and DS9 if you listen to what they are actually saying when they're spouting clearly Socialist concepts. The Federation characters in Star Trek from TNG to Voyager also clearly talk about Capitalism in a extremely negative and historic tone.

It's also backed up by the claim in several writings that Majel Barrett said Gene Roddenberry was a Socialist/Communist in his later life and the claim that has made it into several Trek books that TNG setting was inspired in part by Posadism. (A fringe, sci-fi alien Trotskyist sect who's vision for the future, happens to near be 1:1 identical to how the New World Economy and how humans contact aliens comes to be in Trek)

If you want to know how the economy in the Federation works. Read Socialist and/or Technocracy economic theories, because it's clearly what Roddenberry and the writers did.

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I would suspect this video was likely watched by Roddenberry because I know it was very popular throughout the 80s and elements of it do seem to appear in Trek. (Deals with Money vs Credits at the 40 minute mark)
 
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