There's a clip somewhere of Shatner and Kelley "shaving" with them.
Little things in Trek that just bug you...
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For me, the biggest little thing that annoyed me is how easy it is for intruders/threats/mutinous crew members to lock the bridge crew out of key systems. Or when the Bridge tried to lock someone out of a system, we get the "I can't I've been locked out somehow" shtick.
Besides that, the biggest little eye opener for me is the lack of, ehem, facilities aboard shuttlecraft. Think about it. You would be holding it in for a long time depending on the length of voyage. And all those episodes where the crew were on extended shuttle survey missions... the inside of those shuttlecraft must have smelled horrid. And I would be mortified if Ensign Ricky had to suddenly relieve himself in the corner behind me while I'm trying to pilot the ship through the anomaly of the week. Could get messy real fast.
Besides that, the biggest little eye opener for me is the lack of, ehem, facilities aboard shuttlecraft. Think about it. You would be holding it in for a long time depending on the length of voyage. And all those episodes where the crew were on extended shuttle survey missions... the inside of those shuttlecraft must have smelled horrid. And I would be mortified if Ensign Ricky had to suddenly relieve himself in the corner behind me while I'm trying to pilot the ship through the anomaly of the week. Could get messy real fast.
But if they don't call it money, they can carry on pretending they're better and more evolved humans.
Imagine the writers wouldn't have had the fallback option of the holodeck for those weeks at which inspiration failed them. The horror!
Not really. It's implied that in Trek everyone's basic needs are taken care of. You are given housing, food is free, clothing is free, entertainment is open source.
Credits are what you are given for engaging in "socially necessary work", tending gardens, being a doctor, being an researcher, being a crafter etc.
Credits can not be horded, they are not capital, thus they are not money, upon usage, they are "destroyed". The Picard Winery works 1000 hours to produce wine, they are given 1000 hours worth of credits at whatever rate their work is defined at and then they can spend those credits elsewhere say they spend it at a bar, but when the credits are paid to the bar, the bar doesn't get the credits, the credits vanish, people working at the bar are then given credits for how long they work at whatever rate they work.
This system largely works in the time of Trek, because the credits are basically for "luxury", everything else you ever need is automatically given to you for free. You do not pay for housing, you do not pay for food, you do not pay for clothes etc. You live at a minimum, the standard of an upper-middle class person today, doing absolutely nothing. But if you want to transport around the world, travel to another planet, buy luxury goods etc you need credits. Also because people are freed from money, people largely work for passion. This is an alien concept to us today because Capitalism alienates one from their own labour, but it's proven through behavioural economics and sociology that people actually work harder and productivity rises if they are comfortable and are passionate about the work they are doing.
Star Trek is basically "Fully automated luxury space Communism".
https://www.theguardian.com/sustain...-automated-luxury-communism-robots-employment
Oh I forgot, millionaires can be explained. Latinum. They're Millionares not from their actions within the Federation economy, but with the economy outside the Federation. They make their money from Ferengi, Cardassians, Klingons, Romulans. They may be Federation citizens, but they're operating on a black economy within the Federation and mostly operate outside the Federation NWE.
The constant jarring discrepancies between speeds, distances and times.
-Deep Space Nine is treated like it's on a distant frontier in season 1, yet the senior staff pop back to Earth any time they feel like.
-Both Trek warp scales limit the ships to a few hundred to a few thousand times lightspeed, yet they routinely cover distances that make a mockery of that. Such as Enterprise spending two years heading outwards from Earth and then getting back again in the space of an ad break in The Expanse.
-Despite the low speeds of the ships, everyone talks as if the Federation, Klingon Empire, Cardassian Union, and Romulan Empire between them dominate most of the Alpha Quadrant - a region that would take them decades to even cross from one side to another.
It's not that big a deal, it just bugs me.
-Deep Space Nine is treated like it's on a distant frontier in season 1, yet the senior staff pop back to Earth any time they feel like.
-Both Trek warp scales limit the ships to a few hundred to a few thousand times lightspeed, yet they routinely cover distances that make a mockery of that. Such as Enterprise spending two years heading outwards from Earth and then getting back again in the space of an ad break in The Expanse.
-Despite the low speeds of the ships, everyone talks as if the Federation, Klingon Empire, Cardassian Union, and Romulan Empire between them dominate most of the Alpha Quadrant - a region that would take them decades to even cross from one side to another.
It's not that big a deal, it just bugs me.
Her ready room is better than my apartment!
...the change in Chakotay's hair from season 3 to season 4 (or thereabouts).
Imagine the writers wouldn't have had the fallback option of the holodeck for those weeks at which inspiration failed them. The horror!
Yeah, wow, it's too hard to come up with stories when you only have the whole friggin' quadrant to work with -- instead, let's tell stories about historical figures and the crew's cliched fantasies! Always drove me crazy.
Forget "Fair Haven" (wouldn't mind if I could), I still remember when the crew rescued Janeway and "da Vinci" in "Concerning Flight" and her first concern, on getting to the ship, was "I have to go and check on the master!" Sweetie, he's a hologram. He'll be just the same tomorrow or next week. Meanwhile, maybe say "Thank you" to your crew, who just busted their backsides to rescue you! (I may or may not have actually snapped, "Don't say thanks, b*tch!" at the screen the first time I saw it.)
Somebody needed to hide the boot-black. Not to mention the blow-dryers; he and Kim went ridiculously hi-rise.
fo shiz...
Just a particular scene, but still. In Genesis, Picard risks his own life to lure proto-worf away from Deanna so that Data can work on the cure. Of course he couldn't have simply phasered proto-Worf down, I presume .... (those phasers have heavy stun settings and even can make massive rocks explode, if need be so it's not as if it wouldn't have been up to the task).
Security cameras only exist when they are written in, sometimes with impressive angle coverage, and at other times don't seem to be a thing.
That and people (especially in VOY once the internet etc existed in real life) bringing people reports/data on pads. One episode of Voyager has Nelix wheel a whole cart full of pads to Seven with her parents journals. What?!
Firstly, surely they are all on Voyager's database otherwise how did they get hold of them, and secondly, surely it would fit on one pad?
That and people (especially in VOY once the internet etc existed in real life) bringing people reports/data on pads. One episode of Voyager has Nelix wheel a whole cart full of pads to Seven with her parents journals. What?!
Firstly, surely they are all on Voyager's database otherwise how did they get hold of them, and secondly, surely it would fit on one pad?
Yeah, the crateful of pads always got to me in Dark Frontier. Another good example is the opening scene of Good Shepherd, which follows a chain of pad transfers throughout the ship starting with Janeway in her ready room and ending with the episode's loner crewman on the bottom deck.
Everyone except Darmok speaks English (oh yeah, um, universal translator!) and Ensign Sato and Nuhura speak whatever alien langauage you want after hearing 5 vocabulary words (totally not supernatural though).
The fact that there is apparently an universal 'up' and 'down' direction... (alien) ships running into one another always do so nicely aligned, never under an angle of 70 degrees or so.
EDIT: well, doesn't really bug me, but it is mightily convenient.
EDIT: well, doesn't really bug me, but it is mightily convenient.
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