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Haha that’s funny. But it does show the problem with a video game vs the show. The game is all action and the Gorn just scary raptors to run from or shoot. In the show, they’re not as “atavistic,” they’re not this primitive version of their reptilian form but a relatively humanoid race with large eyes and an upright backbone. They seem more serious to me.
The Gorn and the Tholians are powers that would be most interesting to expand on. Not only have they echoed throughout the franchise for 55 years, but their unique alien biology and cultures would make them more than just "warlike people with prosthetics on their heads" like you see from so many other Trek adversaries.
The Kzinti.
The Kzinti fought and lost no less than four wars with Humans. The losses were devastating to the Kzinti because their population growth rate is very low compare to Humans. During the wars, some Kzinti ate Humans. By treaty, they can’t do that anymore, nor can they weaponize starships greater than police ships. Even since those defeats, however, the Kzinti have still hatched plots in attempts to gain greater dominance over their Federation oppressors.
When the Federation is weak… The Kzinti will make a comeback.
The Kzinti fought and lost no less than four wars with Humans. The losses were devastating to the Kzinti because their population growth rate is very low compare to Humans. During the wars, some Kzinti ate Humans. By treaty, they can’t do that anymore, nor can they weaponize starships greater than police ships. Even since those defeats, however, the Kzinti have still hatched plots in attempts to gain greater dominance over their Federation oppressors.
When the Federation is weak… The Kzinti will make a comeback.
Kes/Prytt was considered
There was a great comic story about the Gorn where they seem savage, but are actually wiser than everyone thinks. Alien spotlight, IIRC.
And it was one planet. Two planets in one system, I would think one could join, long as it met the criteria.
Of the three worlds we've seen apply (Bajor, Kes/Prytt, Angosia), none of them made it in. Have we ever seen a world successfully apply?
^ I'm not sure you can exactly say 'Bajor didn't make it in' . Its membership was actually approved, but Bajor itself made the choice to withdraw at the last possible instant based on that locust vision.
But I agree that we've rarely seen species actually join. Perhaps the Evora would count, but I don't think so, as they only became a Federation protectorate in NEM.
But I agree that we've rarely seen species actually join. Perhaps the Evora would count, but I don't think so, as they only became a Federation protectorate in NEM.
Yes, I expect they joined in time. Angosia probably made it in as well; with Federation assistance, I expect they were able to bring their veterans home in time. Kes/Prytt, who knows? Still plenty of opportunity for the factions to bomb each other back to the stone age.
But we never saw anyone actually join up, far as I know.
Cough Horta cough
Limits of fx of the time. Cg could work a number in them today. Point is that they’re strange intelligent non-humanoids.
It would be interesting to know what they were meant to be, the way they appear on screen could suggest homomorphous or crystalline. Or both.
Yeah, we don't learn much about the Breen either, which makes me curious about them.
And I agree that there must be far more than we know about. Even if the Federation really is spread over 8000 light years (which would be a colossal distance), the galaxy is far larger still, and three dimensional, so there would be a lot of room for neighbouring star powers.
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The First Federation are kind of interesting to me. I think some of the expanded universe materials suggests that they’re a civilization in decline, like the Orions, and that they both were massive galactic powers tens of thousands of years ago. So, they could be few and far between.
Being a Babylon 5 fan, I think of them more as older races who either “ascended” (like maybe the Zalkonians) or otherwise don’t concern themselves with the affairs of younger races, in entirely different affairs with other equals/superiors.
The Caitians are probably part of the Federation I think, going TAS and TVH.
Until PIC I was starting to wonder if maybe the Kzinti were too. Their territory might probably be fairly close to Earth if they were enemies way back when…maybe they were absorbed by the ballooning Federation. But okay, they’re still around and causing trouble.
Being a Babylon 5 fan, I think of them more as older races who either “ascended” (like maybe the Zalkonians) or otherwise don’t concern themselves with the affairs of younger races, in entirely different affairs with other equals/superiors.
The Caitians are probably part of the Federation I think, going TAS and TVH.
Until PIC I was starting to wonder if maybe the Kzinti were too. Their territory might probably be fairly close to Earth if they were enemies way back when…maybe they were absorbed by the ballooning Federation. But okay, they’re still around and causing trouble.
Agreed. A civilization I could do without seeing again.
Definitely. The Tholians are ones I want to see more of.
Though we saw & heard more about them on DS9, I still think they’re closer to Romulan territory. That old Romulan saying about ‘never turning your back on a Breen’ I think comes from an ancient rivalry or betrayal, maybe from during the Earth-Romulan War — that could help explain how the upstart humans defeated a near 2000 year spacefaring race.
Yeah, it’s the three-dimensionality that makes the canon work I think. The 2D maps the franchise produces makes borders and travel times between territories difficult to fully accept. But if you accept maps as cross-sections of territory it’s much more breathable.
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