Legalizing marijuana. I don't get it.

[Locutus of Bored]

Then obviously you shouldn't drive on marijuana. For the large majority of experienced smokers, there is no danger to it. You can find the studies for this. The only difference is the stoned driver goes a bit slower.

Why do they go a bit slower if there's no danger to it? Going slower implies that they're compensating for a delayed reaction time, in which case there is a danger.

I haven't smoked much on the highway since then, but it was somewhat affirming. I knew I wasn't impaired, and if this wasn't the acid test for that situation I don't know what is.

So anyway, everyone's different. Know thy limitations. In my experience it's the occasional pot smoker, or non-smoker, who is aghast at the thought of driving on it. As perhaps they should be. But I smoke around twice a day. Cell phones and radios are more dangerous than the seasoned pot smoker on the road.

Drunk drivers use the same arguments for why they're capable of driving under the influence. A lot of people think "well, it might be too difficult for some people, but I can handle it." Maybe they're right, but maybe not. Why not just avoid the issue altogether and not drive while you're high? I don't doubt for a second that drinking and driving or texting while driving are more dangerous, but that doesn't mean driving while you're high doesn't also possibly carry some risk.

The kind of irresponsible nonchalance you have on the issue doesn't help the pro-legalization case.

 

[infinix]

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Does the US government actually mass produces anything that the people directly consume? (Services provided not withstanding)

But yeah, if marijuana was legalized, someone would definitely genetically engineer the crop to need less light, less water, produce more leaves, be more potent, and whatever else that would make the crop more profitable. Just about every fruit and vegetable we buy at a supermarket has been genetically engineered (cross breeding and selection counts) one way or another.

 

[Davros]

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Does the US government actually mass produces anything that the people directly consume? (Services provided not withstanding)

But yeah, if marijuana was legalized, someone would definitely genetically engineer the crop to need less light, less water, produce more leaves, be more potent, and whatever else that would make the crop more profitable. Just about every fruit and vegetable we buy at a supermarket has been genetically engineered (cross breeding and selection counts) one way or another.

People are already carefully breeding the plants for higher potency as it is.

 

[infinix]

People are already carefully breeding the plants for higher potency as it is.

Oh? But its *not* backed up by full fledged research (university funding, labs, teams of scientist), right?

 

[SG-17]

Not really. People have been using selective breeding for thousands of years.

 

[Trekker4747]

Not really. People have been using selective breeding for thousands of years.

See: bananas.

 

[Davros]

People are already carefully breeding the plants for higher potency as it is.

Oh? But its *not* backed up by full fledged research (university funding, labs, teams of scientist), right?

More than you might think. But if it were legal people could grow their own any way they wanted it.

 

[Trekker4747]

People are already carefully breeding the plants for higher potency as it is.

Oh? But its *not* backed up by full fledged research (university funding, labs, teams of scientist), right?

More than you might think. But if it were legal people could grow their own any way they wanted it.

Just like people grow their own tobacco, their own produce and distill their own alcohol, right?

 

[KJbushway]

yeah.

 

[Davros]

Oh? But its *not* backed up by full fledged research (university funding, labs, teams of scientist), right?

More than you might think. But if it were legal people could grow their own any way they wanted it.

Just like people grow their own tobacco, their own produce and distill their own alcohol, right?

Unlike tobacco, Cannabis can grow all sorts of places. There is also a whole industry of supplying people with what they need to brew their own beers and wines. As for distilling look up Roundhouse Distilleries. It is a micro distillery run by an old friend from high school. He makes a nice Gin.

 

[Trekker4747]

Just because people "can" make their own, even easily, doesn't mean they will. There's a reason why fast-food, instant dinners, take-and-heat meals and the such are so popular over people just going home and cooking dinner. If you can buy it why bother trying to make it yourself?

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Oh? But its *not* backed up by full fledged research (university funding, labs, teams of scientist), right?

More than you might think. But if it were legal people could grow their own any way they wanted it.

Just like people grow their own tobacco, their own produce and distill their own alcohol, right?

I know three or four people who brew there own beer off the top of my head (then again, I know close to that number who grow their own weed). The thing is, good quality requires investment, but if you don't care about quality, you can grow it relatively easy.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Weed is pretty expensive. I would expect that if it were legal to grow it a lot of people would do so.

 

[Trekker4747]

Weed is pretty expensive. I would expect that if it were legal to grow it a lot of people would do so.

Again, that's assuming a lot. People for the most part don't grow their own food even though it'd be cheaper to do that than to go to the store and weed's only currently expensive because it's hard to get and not regulated if it were legal it'd likely be cheaper.

Besides, if it were legal to grow and people did it on their own, so what?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Not sure what you mean by "so what" trekker, I don't care what people do.

It's very common for people in Aus to grow some food in a suburban back yard and I have know many old stoners who grow their own weed. Would they keep doing so if it were legal and you could buy it next to beer? Probably only the ones who also grow their own vegies or have chooks would UNLESS it was very expensive.

It is certainly easier to grow than to brew your own beer which is a fairly popular pastime.

 

[Pingfah]

More than you might think. But if it were legal people could grow their own any way they wanted it.

Just like people grow their own tobacco, their own produce and distill their own alcohol, right?

I know three or four people who brew there own beer off the top of my head (then again, I know close to that number who grow their own weed). The thing is, good quality requires investment, but if you don't care about quality, you can grow it relatively easy.

That's true, although with weed it gets easier to grow good quality with little effort all the time. People have bred good strains that stay short, require only daylight, and don't even smell much, specifically for the casual homegrower.

 

[FordSVT]

Marijuana is less addictive than caffeine, a substance people consume in mass quantities every damn day.

Okay, so it seems like the vast majority here support legalizing marijuana. If the rest of the population is indifferent on this subject, then I don't understand why it isn't legal yet.

How did that initiative fail in California? Makes no sense.

You forgot about money. Whomever has the most money makes the most impact. There were plenty of special interests who were against the legalization of marijuana. Keep in mind, too, that drug cartels don't want marijuana to be legal, because that will curb their profits, which was the same deal with rumrunners back in the Prohibition era.

It's a well known fact that many of the people who operate the legal medical marijuana dispensaries in California didn't want to see it passed and actively funded the campaign against it. Even pot-heads are more interested in money than principle.

 

[KJbushway]

^ those pot-heads are actaully buisnesses that don't want to lose profit, becuase they themselves think that the people they supply would just grow their own.
watch the CNBC special called Weed in America. You'll see that discussed along with one couple who has some unique uses for cannibas.

 

[Kestra]

Just like people grow their own tobacco, their own produce and distill their own alcohol, right?

I know three or four people who brew there own beer off the top of my head (then again, I know close to that number who grow their own weed). The thing is, good quality requires investment, but if you don't care about quality, you can grow it relatively easy.

That's true, although with weed it gets easier to grow good quality with little effort all the time. People have bred good strains that stay short, require only daylight, and don't even smell much, specifically for the casual homegrower.

I have a relative that does it and it didn't seem to require much investment. Then again I have no idea about quality; I've been told it's good but I wouldn't know!

 

[KJbushway]

^ and thats not neccessarily a bad thing. Even if it become legal and all around you do it, and you don't, good job to you.