Broken Bow was filmed pre-9/11.
Least favorite Trek
- Thread starter KayArr
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^Gotcha.
Cardboard cut-outs?
Enterprise was supposed to have the least technobable, but it didn't turn out that way.
People aren't saying that you're right or wrong to like either Enteprise or Voyager, they're saying that you're wrong in your assessment of DS9. I've never really read any arguments that can convince me beyond my ability to articulate a counter-argument that the likes of TOS, TNG or DS9 are crap.
Seriously, if that's what ENT gave to the Star Trek universe, you're clutching at straws
People aren't saying that you're right or wrong to like either Enteprise or Voyager, they're saying that you're wrong in your assessment of DS9. I've never really read any arguments that can convince me beyond my ability to articulate a counter-argument that the likes of TOS, TNG or DS9 are crap.
Seriously, if that's what ENT gave to the Star Trek universe, you're clutching at straws
I went with Voyager. Worst Trek Ever.
/By a nose. The 4th season of Enterprise improved. Voyager was a downhill slide.
/By a nose. The 4th season of Enterprise improved. Voyager was a downhill slide.
I voted for VOY, though I did like some of it (and do find myself watching it if I find it on the TV. ...Hey its Trek 
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I almost went for ENT but the initial idea was a creative idea (handled badly) and I rather really enjoyed the spirit of the writing of the 4th season!
)I almost went for ENT but the initial idea was a creative idea (handled badly) and I rather really enjoyed the spirit of the writing of the 4th season!
Yeah--I know, this is a totally DS9 board for sure. I love reading posts in the Ent and Voy forums where folks say that they didn't know that folks hated it until they came here!
There's huge Voyager love over in that section here--it's interesting that none of them came to vote in the Best/Worst poll. That says to me that they've been hectored so much in the General Trek section that they just stay away. That's sad. But I'm ready for you all, bring it on!
There's huge Voyager love over in that section here--it's interesting that none of them came to vote in the Best/Worst poll. That says to me that they've been hectored so much in the General Trek section that they just stay away. That's sad. But I'm ready for you all, bring it on!
It's not so much that you found it boring. That doesn't really concern me one little bit. Everyone has an opinion, and to each their own. It's the rationale as to why you think it's boring that I'm countering, seeing as much of it seems to be a) ill-informed (which isn't your fault if you've not seen much of it) or b) Double standard. Deriding DS9 for faults that are more prevalent in a show that you're happy to champion.
Never warmed to DS9 or "Voyager."
The "Suliban" were named for the Taliban, largely because in early 2001 the producers thought the name was rather obscure (similar to the word "ferengi" in 1986-87). Of course, before the premiere of the series national events would change that.
The "Suliban" were named for the Taliban, largely because in early 2001 the producers thought the name was rather obscure (similar to the word "ferengi" in 1986-87). Of course, before the premiere of the series national events would change that.
I did watch what most see as the best DS9 episode--In the Pale Moonlight.
Have you watched all of Enterprise? How well informed are you about that?
I didn't mean to deride your favorite show, but "there's only 2 choices for the worst show" is bound to get anyone's dander up, don't you agree?
Have you watched all of Enterprise? How well informed are you about that?
I didn't mean to deride your favorite show, but "there's only 2 choices for the worst show" is bound to get anyone's dander up, don't you agree?
From Memory Alpha
The name "Suliban" was coined by Rick Berman, after the Taliban, months before the September 11, 2001 attacks. According to Berman, the "Taliban was just a mysterious, exotic name to me. Several years ago, I went to Afghanistan. I used to make documentary films and traveled around the world, and the Taliban regime was just getting a stronghold there. To me, there was something incredibly dramatic about the name Taliban it was like something out of a Sinbad story."
Hardly, I've found my fellow fans to be very passionate about all of the shows, especially the one that is their favorite.*shrugs* Mine is still TOS and I merely just disagreed with you on the other thread in my posts.
I think you should learn a term from AA..." Contempt Prior to Investigation " KayArr. You should investigate DS9 more in my opinion from a less biased approach.
*shrugs* Who knows, you might see it through different eyes someday. If a large portion of people see something you do not, then there just /might/ be something that you are not seeing....or missed is all.
When it comes to personal taste or intelligent opinion (researched or studied , nothing to do with mental capcity so i'm not insulting you) there is no right or wrong..just like or dislike.
Just because some people don't see DS9 as the worst Trek ever, doesn't make this a DS9 run board. That would come as a bit of a shock to those of us that prefer another show of the franchise :thumbsup:
There is plenty to like in all of the shows Star Trek has to offer.
Large portion of people? All 12 of you? I'm not saying it's a DS9 board--I'm saying that the Voyager folks seem to stay away from this part of it. I would, too, if it was my favorite.
I'm sorry to have seemed contemptuous--but when confronted with it, I sometimes offer it in return. "There are only 2 choices for worst show" is contempt in my book.
I'm sorry to have seemed contemptuous--but when confronted with it, I sometimes offer it in return. "There are only 2 choices for worst show" is contempt in my book.
*sighs* I was speaking of the majority of the posts I have read in your threads Kayarr. Nothing more.
I am just detecting a degree of personal biased in your posts is all.
I am a TOS fan, it is my favorite show of the franchise, but I've never since I've joined this board ever seen such a bias as to warrent this board to be called DS9 run.
I am just detecting a degree of personal biased in your posts is all.
I am a TOS fan, it is my favorite show of the franchise, but I've never since I've joined this board ever seen such a bias as to warrent this board to be called DS9 run.
No one's opinion about entertainment - in this thread, on this board, on the Internet, in the bleeding world - is without "personal bias." It cannot be otherwise, and anyone who believes themselves "objective" about such things is kidding themselves.
I was responding to this...
which is what you said.
I apologize if you saw anything in posts as contempous towards you. In fact I really wasn't, I was trying to talk to one fan from the position of another.
I just felt you to be biased without actually seeing the series in it's entirity is all.
I feel i can post my opinion because I have seen all of the episodes of all of the series. *shrugs* I happen to love trek and have a DvD player
In the Pale Moonlight is one episode. There are plenty more. You've stated that you like variety. DS9 is the most richly diverse incarnation of Star Trek in terms of storytelling that you're likely to see. Try watching The Visitor, or Sacrifice of Angels, or Far Beyond the Stars. They're amongst the best that Star Trek has to offer.
In terms of Enterprise, I've seen it all. Be it in first run or in repeat form, over the years I've seen it through from start to finish. As stated elsewhere on this thread, it's not the worst incarnation of Star Trek, that's Voyager. The reason being that Enterprise does actualy have its moments, just not many of them.
The comment about there being "only two realistic options" is based upon previous polls of a similar nature. Voyager and Enterprise always come out as being the shows that least people like/most people dislike. Personally, that's a view I share and it doesn't surprise me to see that many others obviously do too. They're just not great shows. DS9 is my favourite incarnation of Star Trek, but if people want to argue the relative merits of TOS or TNG then I've got a lot of time for those views, it's a stance that can be argued and a point that can be made. To me, trying to argue either Voyager or Enterprise as being the best that the franchise has to offer is going to take an awful lot of persuading before I can even entertain that notion as anything other than bemusement.
Well, you lean something new everyday. :thumbsup:
