Loved seeing the Vulcan Learnatariums™ from Star Trek (2009) again!I think this is the one:
Learnatariums™
So basically they took an ST09 idea and found away to make it blue?
Yeah - even I will agree with that - I have a LOT of problems with STV:TFF but the character of "Sybok" being Spock's half-brother, and the actor chosen to portray him aren't two of them.Luckinbill was splendid. The character and performance were superb. The massive problems STV had lay elsewhere, like in the script.
1) One is his son. And he expects his son to follow in Sarek's path and traditions like Sarek had for his father.It just seems odd that Sarek doesn't want Spock to be part of Starfleet, but he has no issue passing his ward off to a Starfleet captain. Surely there are other worthwhile humans and human organizations in the Federation?
Those in themselves are most likely a callback/homage to the recently resurrected Spock re-education scene from STIV: TVH (1986):
In what way was that scene “resurrected”? I can't remember ever seeing the movie without it.Those in themselves are most likely a callback/homage to the recently resurrected Spock re-education scene from STIV: TVH (1986)
Um, I was talking about the fact that Spock himself was effectively 'recently resurrected' after dying (by getting his memories back after the Fal-Tor-Pan ritual in STIII:TSFS - or don't you remember that?In what way was that scene “resurrected”? I can't remember ever seeing the movie without it.
Um, I was talking about the fact that Spock himself was effectively 'recently resurrected' after dying (by getting his memories back after the Fal-Tor-Pan ritual in STIII:TSFS - or don't you remember that?)
Those in themselves are most likely a callback/homage to the recently resurrected Spock re-education scene from STIV: TVH.
Yeah - even I will agree with that - I have a LOT of problems with STV:TFF but the character of "Sybok" being Spock's half-brother, and the actor chosen to portray him aren't two of them.
Neither is redesing Klingon make up and we know how that went overI haven't read all 8 pages of this thread, but I'm just going to say this: The idea of Spock having a half-sister is not new. It's been done over and over in fanfiction dating back to at least the early 1970s (mentioned in the fanfiction chapter of Star Trek Lives!). I might even have one or two of these in my own collection (I've been collecting 1960s-1990s print 'zines for years, and haven't read all of them yet).
I disagree. When I have discussions about my own life with my parents, they seldom (if ever) are impacted by siblings. Also, maybe Burnham and Spock are estranged, so the last person she wants to talk about is him. Considering that Sarek also feels the same way, Spock would be persona non grata in the family.
There are several reasons why some characters seem to be "forgotten."II could see Spock and Burnham being estranged. I also think at this point Spock and Sarek haven't spoken to each other in a long time though I forgot how long that went on before "Journey to Babel." Seems to me though all of this would need to be at least mentioned. PLus I want to know what Amanda's feelings are on this. I actually think their is lots of drama they can get out of that family and that doesn't even include Sybok.
In perfect world this show might also be able to offer some insight on Spock's youth and growing up. I just hope they don't diminish the other character's in a effort to prop up Burnham. One issue I had on DS9 with Worf's romance with Dax is they never brought up K'ehler. Though worst example is on "Dukes of Hazard" when they replaced the Bo and Luke for 2 never mentioned before cousins and treated Bo and Luke like they never exisited.
Jason
There are several reasons why some characters seem to be "forgotten."
First of all, TV characters are the property of whoever created them. For example, the reason why nobody on TOS ever mentioned anything from City on the Edge of Forever after that episode is because they'd have had to pay Harlan Ellison $$$$$$ to do it - he's extremely possessive of the characters, settings, and concepts he created, and demands to be paid for anyone using them.
That's why Nick Locarno became Tom Paris on Voyager, even though both were played by the same actor and had very similar backstories. You'd think that normally someone would have said, "You seem familiar; you look like Nick Locarno, that notorious guy who got tossed out of the Academy for getting a student killed and then lying about it"... but that character was never mentioned. It's as though Nick Locarno never existed.
As for the DS9 situation, I don't know why they took that route with Worf and Dax; I didn't care that much because I really couldn't stand either of them. Since Alexander was SORAS'd into an adult, there really wasn't much need to mention his mom, I guess.
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