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Kelvin Timeline all but confirmed
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I disagree. It's waaaay easier to explain why things look different in the future rather than inserting them awkwardly in the past. I think you are over stating the complains from fans if they did that. But I do agree with your interpretation of the business model . Having this series connected to branding icons of a Kirk or Spock is probably why they are doing it this way.
It matters if you want a sense of continuity if you ever sit down and do a series by series chronological order rewatch.
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You hug him, I want to keep all of my body parts.
That's what it comes down to. We may love Star Trek for it's optimism, science fiction setting, fun characters, and stories, but CBS/P is in this for lots of cash. I'm fine with that, because more cash means more Star Trek, but that's the heart of it. I think people will just need to make room, if they really want to be a part of Trek's future. I know that I, for one, can love the original series, and still be stoked about the Abrams films. I know that I can eagerly await Discovery because it's new, fresh Star Trek that plans on tackling new concepts while playing in the same sandbox as the original series (to some degree). It's there, if people really want to enjoy it.
Plus shows set early on don't give off the impression that you have to watch anything beforehand. A post Voyager series might give the new viewer the impression that they had to watch the existing shows first, whether that's actually the case or not. The last thing they want is to limit the audience to those who were still watching Voyager come the end. For similar reasons the trailer makes no mention of Enterprise.
Nope.
Saavik sometimes looks like Kirstie Alley and other times like Robin Curtis.
I don't need, for example, mention of an accident with a mechanical rice picker to account for that!
Why is it so hard to lighten up?
Yeah I would pretty not call those complete designs. Just certain Klingons having different features, much like humans do. You can tell they are the same species. The Discovery Klingons look like a whole new alien race.
And the TNG era make-up is fine. Keep it and give them haircuts for the new show, if the long hair is such a bother. Don't make them look like a new alien race. (using Gowron as an example doesn't count. He always looked ridiculous lol)
CorporalCaptain, really? It's not the same thing at all.
It's become kinda clear that fandom has been without a Prime universe show for so long now, that they are willing to accept any crap the producers fling at us. if something like this had happened back when all the other shows were airing, I'd not be the only one having a problem with this.
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This. Too much adherence to canon weighs a series down. Discovery gets to be set in the TOS prime timeline, while also making new forays into stories and concepts untouched during that era.
ok if you say so. They look far closer in design to Klingons in the TNG era and in the JJ films than they do to TOS Klingons to me, but you're happy to accept those as looking like the same species. I don't know what to tell you.
Dude, again. Explained in-universe.
So before that episode of Enterprise aired, you didn't accept Klingons from TMP onwards as the same species?
What happens if in 20 years they cobble together another slightly nonsensical explanation for this change? Do you retrospectively then accept these Klingons?
I don't think they are untouchable but I think the new look they got after "TOS" became iconic much like the Vulcans having pointy ears means you basically should just be doing minor changes and making the forehead pieces look better. The new look IMO seems to far of a change for a prime universe setting. They do look better than that old photo we all saw so that is something.
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In-universe, outside the universe, doesn't matter. It's still trying to cover for a glaring change.
That's cool, come back in 30 years and see if they explain this one
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Sure, they could toss that out there, but why would they, or should they? It's not important. It's a cosmetic change for a production created for the 21st century.
As for Kelvin timeline: the aesthetics of the show are inline with USS Franklin -> NX 01 Enterprise -> USS Kelvin, all ships from the prime timeline and canon too. So or we will consider that the timeline was changed because of the Temporal COld War long before Discovery or we sail along with the producers that this is a prime timeline show. I don't really care if the show will have good characters and stories.
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