I'm not a fan either. That's why I said, not the ball and cylinders. I don't accept that design as being the Daedalus.
Just use a "Connie"!
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Well, that's the only Daedalus class ship I know of. Are you referring to another version?
There isn't one, yet. And Ball and Cylinders claim is a bit iffy, IMO.
Nice reasoning! You don't mind if I paraphrase you and use it myself in the future:
"I'm not a fan either. That's why I said, not the flat frying pan. I don't accept that design as being the Galaxy/Enterprise-D".
Well, huh. Ok; thanks for the compliment.
What he means is that canonically, there is a ship class called the Daedalus, referred to in the TNG episode "Power Play." When the ST Encyclopedia came out, a ball-and-cylinder desktop model was built specifically for the book (based on a prototype design for the original TOS Enterprise.) Mike Okuda conjectured that this design was the design for the Daedalus class, but that has never been proven onscreen in Trek canon.
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A visceral reaction to be sure. It's a damn ugly design. When it shows up on screen as an actual ship, I might reconsider.Nice reasoning! You don't mind if I paraphrase you and use it myself in the future:
"I'm not a fan either. That's why I said, not the flat frying pan. I don't accept that design as being the Galaxy/Enterprise-D".
Yep.
There is a ball-and-cylinder model in Sisko's office, but at no point is it identified onscreen as a "Daedalus."
They could use a Mirandie or an NXie.
This is kinda what I'd like a Constitution-class ship in Discovery to look like:
I like that, yeah I found a really old fan concept of the 09' Enterprise that with a few changes would be a great new look to the Connie if she came up in Discovery.This is kinda what I'd like a Constitution-class ship in Discovery to look like:
This is kinda what I'd like a Constitution-class ship in Discovery to look like:
But we can't have something like that, because Fuller explicitly stated that DSC will take place in the prime universe. So it has to look exactly like it did in "The Cage"...otherwise he'd be lying, now, wouldn't he?
If they use a Connie, then it should really be a Connie. I don't see any Connies posted so far.
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e15_07.jpg
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e0910_beauty03.jpg
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e15_11.jpg
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In other news, the Daedalus class is coming at last in the Star Trek: The Official Starship Collection!
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn....=75b5d9f49f4804b127618436b1c9fa94&oe=58A2CFF2
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e15_07.jpg
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e0910_beauty03.jpg
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/e15_11.jpg
https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/spaceseed2010_02.jpg
In other news, the Daedalus class is coming at last in the Star Trek: The Official Starship Collection!
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn....=75b5d9f49f4804b127618436b1c9fa94&oe=58A2CFF2
None of those artworks are the version of the Connie from "The Cage." We need to be precise now, don't we?
The first episode is going to use costumes and set designs exactly like the Cage. Early in the episode they'll run into Q who is messing with the universe. After being transported to some Arthurian fantasy, they'll tell Q (disguised as Merlin) to knock it off and leave the universe alone. Q will disappear in a flash of light and suddenly the crew will be in the updated uniforms in an updated ship with updated special effects and none of them will notice.
None of those artworks are the version of the Connie from "The Cage." We need to be precise now, don't we?
You are absolutely right of course. I would absolutely LOVE it if they used the version of the Connie from "The Cage"!
They can even go one step further and use the USS Constellation as the template for any DSC's Connies. The registry number of the Constellation (1017) shows us that she is a contemporary to the Discovery (1031). As the AMT Enterprise model was used for the Constellation exclusively then we can safely assume that that's how Connies of the era looked. David Shaw has even created exact orthos based on the '66 AMT model:
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I prefer seeing a different ship design in every series. Even if it's not my "preferred" design. Like, much as I love TNG, I have never been a huge fan of the 1701-D. I kinda agree with the "cruise ship in space" criticism. But ultimately that matters very little, because the stories are excellent. And that's how I feel about DSC. A lot of Trekkies seem to be having fits over the design, but I think it looks fine and even if I didn't like it, I care much less about the look of the ship than the quality of the stories and characters. 
I didn't think it was possible to make the nacelles look worse.I like that, yeah I found a really old fan concept of the 09' Enterprise that with a few changes would be a great new look to the Connie if she came up in Discovery.
And the next ten years of TrekBBS will be about how they'll/why haven't they yet /how dare they not fix the universe to the way it was originally.
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