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Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

There have been rumors that the new management will completely ignore Kurtzman's era. I'd do the same if I were in their position. The Abrams/Kurtzman era has done more damage to the brand than good.

Star Trek is a commercial property. CBS/Paramount is making money on showing the Kurtzman shows, on selling blu rays, on licencing agreements for tie-in products. How much more of that money will come in if CBS/Paramount makes fandom's lunatic fringe happy by saying none of that stuff counts, forget about it?

There are plenty of ways to start afresh without wiping out any continuity. For example, set a new series in the 26th century on a ship exploring the Magellanic Clouds. New characters, new settings, new species. It's trivially easy to come up with concepts that don't require any references to any Kurtzman shows -- or any other Trek shows -- without overwriting them.

I mean, the lunatic fringe likes to go on about how much the people making Star Trek hate Star Trek and Star Trek fans. Seems to me that telling all of us, not just the haters, that over a decade of Star Trek doesn't count is what a CBS/Paramount that has contempt for Star Trek and its fans would do.
 
There have been rumors that the new management will completely ignore Kurtzman's era. I'd do the same if I were in their position. The Abrams/Kurtzman era has done more damage to the brand than good.

which brings me to say the star trek reboot is then gonna be on a alternate reality

and which also brings me to say that the kurtzman era was on a alternate reality just like how the star trek abrams movies era was

which is also means that there is a star trek multiverse
 
which brings me to say the star trek reboot is then gonna be on a alternate reality

If they're smart, they won't link the movie to the rest of the franchise via publicity. They won't go down any rabbit holes about Prime or alternate universes. They'll say its Star Trek, and that it is going to be the best Star Trek movie possible.
 
There have been rumors that the new management will completely ignore Kurtzman's era.
If they do, they're just as likely to ignore the Berman era and even TOS as well.
Nick Locarno became Tom Paris because TPTB that didn't want to pay royalties to Ron Moore and Naren Shankar during VGR's run.
Ron Moore has himself debunked that claim.
 
which brings me to say the star trek reboot is then gonna be on a alternate reality

Maybe. We don't really know.

and which also brings me to say that the kurtzman era was on a alternate reality just like how the star trek abrams movies era was

Unlikely. For one thing, the Abrams movies were specifically planned to introduce a new continuity. That's not the case with anything else.

which is also means that there is a star trek multiverse

I'm watching the 1993 Next Generation episode "Parallels" right now, but "Mirror, Mirror" got there in 1967.
 
Honestly, they're not trying to be. Everything they do is to generate clicks and only for that purpose.
 
Star Trek is a commercial property. CBS/Paramount is making money on showing the Kurtzman shows, on selling blu rays, on licencing agreements for tie-in products. How much more of that money will come in if CBS/Paramount makes fandom's lunatic fringe happy by saying none of that stuff counts, forget about it?

There are plenty of ways to start afresh without wiping out any continuity. For example, set a new series in the 26th century on a ship exploring the Magellanic Clouds. New characters, new settings, new species. It's trivially easy to come up with concepts that don't require any references to any Kurtzman shows -- or any other Trek shows -- without overwriting them.

I mean, the lunatic fringe likes to go on about how much the people making Star Trek hate Star Trek and Star Trek fans. Seems to me that telling all of us, not just the haters, that over a decade of Star Trek doesn't count is what a CBS/Paramount that has contempt for Star Trek and its fans would do.
People that disagree with you = "lunatic fringe."

Got it. You're unwilling and/or incapable of having legitimate and open-minded dialogue.
 
Initially both Rod Serling and Bruce Geller owned 50% of The Twilight Zone and Mission: Impossible.

When the shows ended CBS went to Rod and Bruce and bought out their halves of the shows with a lump sum payment (based on falsified numbers), claiming that the shows would make this much in syndication revenue and this is the amount they would pay them based on that figure.

I don't have my Behind the Scenes books handy, but both Rod and Bruce were bought out with about five figures $10,000 - $90,000.

Of course, the shows made many more times that over the years, but Rod and Bruce had no recourse over claiming lost monies because they had signed away their half/rights to the shows they created.

Which is why CBS/Paramount can keep trotting out remakes of The Twilight Zone and Mission: Impossible and the estates of Rod and Bruce can't do anything or make any money.

The same probably hold true for Gene Roddenberry is he sold his ownership of Star Trek to CBS/Paramount.​
 
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mean, the lunatic fringe likes to go on about how much the people making Star Trek hate Star Trek and Star Trek fans. Seems to me that telling all of us, not just the haters, that over a decade of Star Trek doesn't count is what a CBS/Paramount that has contempt for Star Trek and its fans would do.
Because it isn't what fans would do. Fans are not production teams and production teams are not fans in terms of making decisions. It's not out of malice but business and trying to tell stories that are entertaining first and foremost.

The assumption that Paramount has Kurtzman must have contempt for Star Trek because they don't placate me is a leap too far for me as a fan.
 
People that disagree with you = "lunatic fringe."

Got it. You're unwilling and/or incapable of having legitimate and open-minded dialogue.
Apparently, reading comprehension disagrees with you. Try rereading what he actually wrote instead of projecting your preconceptions.
The assumption that Paramount has Kurtzman must have contempt for Star Trek because they don't placate me is a leap too far for me as a fan.
It’s a leap beyond rational thought.
 
People that disagree with you = "lunatic fringe."

Got it. You're unwilling and/or incapable of having legitimate and open-minded dialogue.

The idea that a media company would spend tens or hundreds of millions of dollars on something they hate in order to piss off the fans who they also hate... that's not people disagreeing with me, that's people disagreeing with reality.

Star Trek needs both its older fans and new fans. The whole last ten years have been about trying to make a variety of Star Trek shows so that anyone could find something they enjoyed while keeping the core values consistent. It hasn't worked as well as it might have, but that's got a hell of a lot more to do with changes in television over the years since Enterprise ended than it does with anyone at CBS/Paramount saying, ha ha, fuck those trekkie losers, we're gonna feed 'em a load of shit and they'll hate it, this is going to be so much fun.

Some fans' beloved idea, that someone would come in and say, we're going to keep showing the Kurtzman shows and selling the blu rays while telling fans those shows aren't canon and they should ignore them, is not based in reality. Nor is the idea that someone would come in and say, fuck the Kurtzman era, it never happened, you'll never see it on TV again, and we've stopped selling the blu rays, no one will ever mention Michael Burnham or Beckett Mariner ever again.

When I talk about a lunatic fringe, I'm talking about people who seriously believe that studio execs think that way.
 
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