Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Starbreaker, Aug 23, 2017.
I really like it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And it wouldn't be the first time, either. "The Killing Joke" also presented the Joker as a failed comedian.
The thing is too, if you don’t like this backstory, the next version of Mr J will have a different one. Nicholson’s psychotic gangster, Ledger with his differing explanations for how he got the scars etc. This (the current movie) is just one possible explanation for how he came to be.
I actually like the idea that nobody, not even the Joker himself, knows his true origin.
So far, it's done $93 million in the states and $140 million outside the states. That's a lot of incels.
Or people who love feeling superior to incels..?
Other than the 1989 BATMAN movie and THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, has the Joker ever been killed off in a project?
(When TDKR first came out, I actually interpreted it as canon, and said to myself ''How did Miller get permission to waste the Joker? Not to mention poor Alfred.)
A rancid tub of whale shit is superior to incels.
Probably do to the fact it took place in a different time frame.
Apparently so: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.de...the-joker/264384/the-many-deaths-of-the-joker
More like a washed out stand up. Blame that on Alan Moore, that's something they lifted from the Killing Joke.
Edited to add: Ninja'd.
So, the movie made 93 million dollars this weekend.
Couldn't find a body count. Does anyone have a body count?
All the killers stayed home because the theaters were all sold out. Jason
The media's fearmongering based on a misconception of a character did not give them the imagined "incel" story they so breathlessly predicted for the premiere of this movie.
To people with real world experience seeing someone kill another human being, he knows if a person desire to take life, he does not need a movie to inspire him. It will just happen.
Unfortunately, I didn't see the movie, as I said, I did post an article from 2014 about the movie that was brushed off by others here; I finally found the thread containing the article just now.
Tommy Lee Jones in new controversial movie about U.S. history (also contain link to original article about The Homesman)
About the incel controversy...
Perhaps I'm stupid, but I can't really see how the protagonist is some kind of incel archetype. It isn't like he laments all the time he can't bone someone or the women prefer some "chad" over him. Yes, he fantasizes about a girl who doesn't reciprocate, but I'm quite sure it isn't an exclusively incel thing. If this film came out 20, 10 or just 5 years ago, no one would have said that the protagonist's problems stem from the fact that he can't get laid.
Thanks for alerting me to this film. I see it is on Amazon Prime--so I will check it out.
As for The Joker--I certainly plan on seeing it at some point, but I don't even think of it as a Batman film in all honesty as it doesn't seem to resemble anything in the Batman mythos. It is as if the Joker name was slapped onto a Martin Scorcese project just to generate buzz and sales. For those who have seen it, is there anything in the film that actually relates to Batman lore?
Yes, a lot of things. Should I spoiler them?
Incel is just the latest catchphrase. Loner use to be the term. Before that is was a shut in going back to boogieman. Most of these people are sad,lonely people with unfulfilled lives who are more likely to kill themselves. The ones who go they next level seem to always be acting on personal shit in their own lives who just finally break. The only reason they write manifesto's or livestream is because for them this is the first time anyone has cared about them or acknowledged their exstience. Also they aren't white nationist. While most of them do have sexist and racist views they aren't in gangs or even overtly political like the nationalist are. Jason
No, I don't want them spoiled thanks. Just curious.
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