Jeyl's Nitpicks on XI (Spoiler Heavy)

[Zeppster]

Re: Turbolifts on the Kelvin are weird

Everything in the movie is explainable except for one thing: the turbolifts on the Kelvin. When the captain leaves the bridge and goes to the shuttle bay, which is located on the top... thingy... of the Kelvin, we see the turbo lift coming down the turboshaft and arriving at the shuttlebay floor. However, to get from any location in the saucer section to the shuttlebay one would have to travel UP, not DOWN. There is no reason to go DOWN (which implies one originated from somewhere UP) unless he made a pitstop in a higher deck to.. I don't know.. have a pee before he left? Get a sammich? It makes no sense and bugged me for hours afterward.

Yeah, aside from that, everything else was tits.

Going from Vulcan to Earth in hours instead of days, teleporting light years and half light years across the galaxy was never possible in Trek. You had to be relatively close to a planet/moon/whatever.

 

[pookha]

Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)

Great movie, but, my 2 nit picks are

1) Give me a name of a new race. Please. We seen several. All I want is a name. Same with a Planet. Show me something new.

2) Never once did I feel anything in regards to 'exploring' and 'going where noone has gone before'. Please, next time, lets remember that this is a trek they are on.

really all the films though the first to a lesser degree had that fault.
still would like to see some discover new civilizations in the sequel .. would be nice.

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Going from Vulcan to Earth in hours instead of days, teleporting light years and half light years across the galaxy was never possible in Trek. You had to be relatively close to a planet/moon/whatever.

bah even in tos and through the other series they cribbed on how much time it took to get from place to place.

so much so that fans came up with the warp highway theory and that there were bypasses through space were a ship could travel far more quickly.

as for the long range beaming.,. remember it was one of the things prime spock showed scotty. well showed scotty his own theory..

 

[BenRoethig]

Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)

Why didn't anyone question why Nero and the other Romulans looked like Vulcans?

They had 25 years to figure it out.

If Archer was still around, then presumably T'Pol would still be alive. She should have had a major role.

Although I suppose she could have died in the Romulan War or something.

Probably a decedent. father have a tendency to follow in their father's footsteps.

Why has the Enterprise changed in look, although I liked it, is it supposed to be a pre-refit model?

It was built a decade and half later.

I had some problems with it, despite generally enjoying it. The Spock/Uhura thing was a definite WTF moment. That and Kirk getting promoted to Captain right away. Would not have happened in any sort of real military.

I did a nice long review here if anyone is interested: http://conventionfans.today.com/200...tar-trek-movie-was-great-but-not-omg-amazing/

"Starfleet is not a military organization." - Jean-Luc Picard.

That's part of the same 24th century political correctness that put families on starships. It clearly is a military organization.

"Scientists have always been pawns of the military" - David Marcus

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Some Pointless Nitpicking

1. Proof that a bigger budget isn't always better I thought most of the aliens in this film were too corny looking. The bug eyed nurse, big head in the bar. It actually made me long for a couple of forehead aliens. In fact the scene in the bar gave me a kind of Star Wars cantina feeling.

2. Are we not allowed to say "Captain Kirk never actually banged a green chick" now?

3. Was it really necessary to make me feel that old by casting Winona Ryder as somebody's mother?

4. Am I the only one that thought Karl Urban looked scarily like Gary Lockwood from Where No Man Has Gone Before?

5. When Scotty was going through the water pipes wasn't kind of strange that that whole room was completely empty? No one has to be on duty to maintain that thing?

6. Did Spock's first line of dialouge have to be a throwback to an older movie that didn't quite make that much sense in the context it was delivered?

7. How is Spock not in trouble for marooning a fellow Star Fleet member on an obviously dangerous planet so far from the base? And did that lobster creature really look like something that would exist in an arctic enviroment?

 

[miraclefan]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

YEP! Pointless nitpicking!

 

[Capn Flukie]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

3. Was it really necessary to make me feel that old by casting Winona Ryder as somebody's mother?

I had actually thought about that myself.

 

[pookha]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

well spock was going to be in trouble of marooning kirk because jim was going to file a complaint.
i guess in the end he didnt and if he didnt file it .. well..
back sections of engineering in tos often only had a few people around.
plus i suspect a lot of the engineering teams were out repairing the damage that had previously been done.

i almost wish we had one master thread devoted to nitpicks.

edited...
yeah we do ..


thanks mods..

 

[rtc61]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

1. Agree with you on the CG'd-eyed midwife, but disagree on the cantina thing. I didn't have that feeling at all, quite the opposite because there weren't a bunch of aliens in the bar.

2. Well, actually, Kirk never got out of his underpants, so I guess he's still in the loser column with the green chicks.

3. Good point!

4. Yeah, a little ... but actually I think he looked a lot like Deforest Kelley.

5. That whole scene was a little too 'Galaxy Quest' for me.

6. I found that line touching, as if Spock were reminiscing about an especially powerful moment in his relationship with Kirk. I'm betting that was the intent. But Nimoy's delivery wasn't real great.

7. Nobody's going to tell. As for the creature, his reddish skin tells me that his circulatory system carries internally generated heat to his outer skin, thus warding off the extreme cold.

 

[Gepard]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

7. Nobody's going to tell. As for the creature, his reddish skin tells me that his circulatory system carries internally generated heat to his outer skin, thus warding off the extreme cold.

Err, no. The last thing you'd want to do, were you an arctic creature, is move all the nice warm blood you've spent all that energy heating right to the skin where the chilly environment can carry it away. There's a reason elephants and the like have blood that flows very close to the skin in hot climates, and animals like polar bears and seals carry it closer to their cores under layers of fat.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

7. Nobody's going to tell. As for the creature, his reddish skin tells me that his circulatory system carries internally generated heat to his outer skin, thus warding off the extreme cold.

Err, no. The last thing you'd want to do, were you an arctic creature, is move all the nice warm blood you've spent all that energy heating right to the skin where the chilly environment can carry it away. There's a reason elephants and the like have blood that flows very close to the skin in hot climates, and animals like polar bears and seals carry it closer to their cores under layers of fat.

The solution to that is simple, it needs to eat more tribbles.

 

[Gepard]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

Or just cover itself in tribbles. Maybe its skin secretes a glue-like substance, whereupon it rolls itself in the nearest tribble pile it can find, and that's how it stays warm in winter. The one in the movie just hadn't found a big enough concentration of tribbles yet.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Re: Some Pointless Nitpicking

Or just cover itself in tribbles. Maybe its skin secretes a glue-like substance, whereupon it rolls itself in the nearest tribble pile it can find, and that's how it stays warm in winter. The one in the movie just hadn't found a big enough concentration of tribbles yet.

Of course! Spock scared all the tribbles away with that his big fire rod.

 

[webb3201]

Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)

If Nero's ship was able to knock out multiple Federation ships in a matter of seconds near Vulcan, why did it take him so long to destroy the Kelvin? Why didn't he destroy the shuttlecraft? Major plotholes.

Kelvin had shields up and was crewed by an experienced team. The rescue fleet from Earth was crewed by cadets and had no idea what they were walking into. Oh, and the writers needed it to happen that way.

 

[Tralah]

Only thing that annoyed me plotwise was Spock stating that he was a part of an endangered species with about 10,000 Vulcans surviving. However, Vulcans have been a spacefaring race for awhile, so surely there's plenty of Vulcans on other colonies out there?

 

[donners22]

Why didn't anyone question why Nero and the other Romulans looked like Vulcans?

They had 25 years to figure it out.

nuSpock says that Vulcans and Romulans have common ancestry and nobody reacts, so it is presumably a known fact.


For a real nitpick, how did Scotty manage to make such loud banging noises while underwater?

 

[DEWLine]

Only thing that annoyed me plotwise was Spock stating that he was a part of an endangered species with about 10,000 Vulcans surviving. However, Vulcans have been a spacefaring race for awhile, so surely there's plenty of Vulcans on other colonies out there?

You're not alone in wondering about that. I can believe 10,000 survivors in an evacuation of Vulcan itself, but not the entire species being winnowed down to that number. They have to have had colonies and outposts elsewhere.

 

[church2001]

Was anybody else curious as to why a large part of Starfleet was sent to a remote system (Klingons making trouble?)? It was interesting that they finally give an explanation for why the Enterprise was the only ship in range but it only felt like a half-answer since they don't explain why the fleet is away.

All in all, I rather like the direction Abrams and Co. are going with Star Trek. If I had one more nit-pick, I would have loved a scene after the credits to give us an idea what the sequel will hold.

 

[Shatmandu]

Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)

If Nero's ship was able to knock out multiple Federation ships in a matter of seconds near Vulcan, why did it take him so long to destroy the Kelvin? Why didn't he destroy the shuttlecraft? Major plotholes.

Not at all. Use your imagination.

Watch a cat play with a mouse before he kills it, and then come back here with another easily-explained "plot hole."

Joe, shaking head

 

[ironduke555]

Not to be nitpicky

This might be a spoiler I really don't know and please forgive my spelling buy did anyone else notice when Urhura ordered a Cardassian drink at the bar.

 

[Magickthise]

I agree with most of the nitpicks.
Another one would be the ludicrous promotion at the end of Kirk to captain when he's just graduated Starfleet academy a few hours/days ago. I get the field promotion at the time it was needed,but once the threat was done he should have started out as a lieutenant and gone at least three years until captain. Even Pike said he would be captain within four years after graduating. This was just a little too much Kirk praise/ he can do not wrong etc. Ironically he needed more humanizing than Spock.

Yeah, really. Sure, he saved the planet and the ship, but he needs more experience.