Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
I'll suggest it. Or maybe just add it myself.
I'll suggest it. Or maybe just add it myself.
Jeyl's Nitpicks on XI (Spoiler Heavy)
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Re: Problems with the film?
In fact, it's a "peacekeeping and humanitarian" organisation - Captain Pike, Trek XI
In fact, it's a "peacekeeping and humanitarian" organisation - Captain Pike, Trek XI
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Oh, and that's exactly what we want. More continuity glitches right at the start.
No. Not unless they explain why Engineering looks very different than it did when the ship launched.
Oh, and that's exactly what we want. More continuity glitches right at the start.
No. Not unless they explain why Engineering looks very different than it did when the ship launched.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Great movie, but, my 2 nit picks are
1) Give me a name of a new race. Please. We seen several. All I want is a name. Same with a Planet. Show me something new.
2) Never once did I feel anything in regards to 'exploring' and 'going where noone has gone before'. Please, next time, lets remember that this is a trek they are on.
Great movie, but, my 2 nit picks are
1) Give me a name of a new race. Please. We seen several. All I want is a name. Same with a Planet. Show me something new.
2) Never once did I feel anything in regards to 'exploring' and 'going where noone has gone before'. Please, next time, lets remember that this is a trek they are on.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Film Trek does not deal with exploration.
Film Trek does not deal with exploration.
nokiafuturephon
Lieutenant
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
If Nero's ship was able to knock out multiple Federation ships in a matter of seconds near Vulcan, why did it take him so long to destroy the Kelvin? Why didn't he destroy the shuttlecraft? Major plotholes.
If Nero's ship was able to knock out multiple Federation ships in a matter of seconds near Vulcan, why did it take him so long to destroy the Kelvin? Why didn't he destroy the shuttlecraft? Major plotholes.
nokiafuturephon
Lieutenant
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Why were there so many human-like alien species?
Why were there so many human-like alien species?
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Perhaps his ship was heavily damaged after being in spitting distance of a supernova minutes (from his perspective) before meeting the Kelvin?
Perhaps his ship was heavily damaged after being in spitting distance of a supernova minutes (from his perspective) before meeting the Kelvin?
nokiafuturephon
Lieutenant
Re: Problems with the film?
Jean-Luc Picard may never even exist in the new timeline. Also he isn't the Dictator-for-Life of the Federation.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
thats what i thought too. but no one acted surprised that Romulans look similar to Vulcans. anyway, its a minor nitpick.
He did!! When I don't remember that!!
I did think of her last night when Uhura was molesting Spock...poor poor nurse chapel.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
As for not destroying the shuttles, the Narada just finished taking a collision with a starship... it's conceivable that that they were too badly damaged to do much else- it looked to me like the Narada was drifting off in that scene.
Well, we don't know how long it took them to defeat the Starfleet fleet. Besides, it was apparent that they didn't initially intend to destroy Kelvin, seeing how it was Nero who contacted them and asked for Robau to come aboard.
As for not destroying the shuttles, the Narada just finished taking a collision with a starship... it's conceivable that that they were too badly damaged to do much else- it looked to me like the Narada was drifting off in that scene.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
I loved the movie too but I'm pretty tired of this "the only starship in the quadrant/sector" crap. Earth is "defended" by less than a dozen ships all of which are docked and only sport skeleton crews so the academy has to send cadets to man the ships?! Earth?! Really? The planet with Starfleet Command and UFP HQ? That's all it gets? I'll overlook the fact that it doesn't have actual planetary based defenses if you at least have a worthy defense fleet.
For Vulcan, I'll just assume that distress call came from its Starfleet defense ships. It's a founding member of the Federation, it too, should have a dedicated defense fleet. Not some smattering of ships that aren't crewed like was shown around Earth.
Also, no one on Vulcan (or Earth for that matter) thinks to send up a shuttle armed with any sort of weapon to shoot at the drilling platform?! If two Romulan hand disruptors can disable it in a small barage then a single shot from a shuttle should do it. For crying out loud some brave soul should at least crash a personal craft into it...
More than any Trek plot hole, poor defenses bugs the crap out of me.
Those points notwithstanding, it was an excellent movie. 9.5/10
I loved the movie too but I'm pretty tired of this "the only starship in the quadrant/sector" crap. Earth is "defended" by less than a dozen ships all of which are docked and only sport skeleton crews so the academy has to send cadets to man the ships?! Earth?! Really? The planet with Starfleet Command and UFP HQ? That's all it gets? I'll overlook the fact that it doesn't have actual planetary based defenses if you at least have a worthy defense fleet.
For Vulcan, I'll just assume that distress call came from its Starfleet defense ships. It's a founding member of the Federation, it too, should have a dedicated defense fleet. Not some smattering of ships that aren't crewed like was shown around Earth.
Also, no one on Vulcan (or Earth for that matter) thinks to send up a shuttle armed with any sort of weapon to shoot at the drilling platform?! If two Romulan hand disruptors can disable it in a small barage then a single shot from a shuttle should do it. For crying out loud some brave soul should at least crash a personal craft into it...
More than any Trek plot hole, poor defenses bugs the crap out of me.
Those points notwithstanding, it was an excellent movie. 9.5/10
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
Yeah, the whole "The Enterprise is the only ship defending Earth!" has been done so very, very, very much in the various movies/series. Like you, I can give them the benefit of "dramatic license" in that, how dull would it be for the Enterprise to be one of 500 ships blowing the hell out of the Narada before it can so much as cross the orbit of Pluto? It'd be a cool sequence, but would make for a short movie...
Yeah, the whole "The Enterprise is the only ship defending Earth!" has been done so very, very, very much in the various movies/series. Like you, I can give them the benefit of "dramatic license" in that, how dull would it be for the Enterprise to be one of 500 ships blowing the hell out of the Narada before it can so much as cross the orbit of Pluto? It'd be a cool sequence, but would make for a short movie...
You mean within 30 light years?
Any supernova-likely star within 30 light years would be one of the brightest things in the Romulan skies, the risk of its explosion would be very well understood, and considering that the explosion couldn't go faster than light, would be trivial to avoid.
Am I misunderstanding the facts as set forth in the movie? I haven't seen it yet.
I loved the movie but I had one problem.
Earth has NO defenses systems? I don't care how many ships were destroyed at Vulcan, they don't have a National Guard or some land based cannons? A drill can come out of the sky and the entire population waits for the Enterprise to bail them out?
Minor but it bugged me.
Earth has NO defenses systems? I don't care how many ships were destroyed at Vulcan, they don't have a National Guard or some land based cannons? A drill can come out of the sky and the entire population waits for the Enterprise to bail them out?
Minor but it bugged me.
Re: Loved the movie but (insert nit pick here)
In other words, we don't mind paying for lazy writing, because making a plausible movie would be just too much work.
A real writer, a good writer, could make a movie in which the Enterprise was "one of 500 ships" that was compelling and good.
Yeah, the whole "The Enterprise is the only ship defending Earth!" has been done so very, very, very much in the various movies/series. Like you, I can give them the benefit of "dramatic license" in that, how dull would it be for the Enterprise to be one of 500 ships blowing the hell out of the Narada before it can so much as cross the orbit of Pluto? It'd be a cool sequence, but would make for a short movie...
In other words, we don't mind paying for lazy writing, because making a plausible movie would be just too much work.
A real writer, a good writer, could make a movie in which the Enterprise was "one of 500 ships" that was compelling and good.
Turbolifts on the Kelvin are weird
Everything in the movie is explainable except for one thing: the turbolifts on the Kelvin. When the captain leaves the bridge and goes to the shuttle bay, which is located on the top... thingy... of the Kelvin, we see the turbo lift coming down the turboshaft and arriving at the shuttlebay floor. However, to get from any location in the saucer section to the shuttlebay one would have to travel UP, not DOWN. There is no reason to go DOWN (which implies one originated from somewhere UP) unless he made a pitstop in a higher deck to.. I don't know.. have a pee before he left? Get a sammich? It makes no sense and bugged me for hours afterward.
Yeah, aside from that, everything else was tits.
Everything in the movie is explainable except for one thing: the turbolifts on the Kelvin. When the captain leaves the bridge and goes to the shuttle bay, which is located on the top... thingy... of the Kelvin, we see the turbo lift coming down the turboshaft and arriving at the shuttlebay floor. However, to get from any location in the saucer section to the shuttlebay one would have to travel UP, not DOWN. There is no reason to go DOWN (which implies one originated from somewhere UP) unless he made a pitstop in a higher deck to.. I don't know.. have a pee before he left? Get a sammich? It makes no sense and bugged me for hours afterward.
Yeah, aside from that, everything else was tits.
The wording confused me on how Romulus was destroyed. They didn't really say the Romulus star exploded but they didn't say it was another star either. It seems to me if it was Romulus's star life would have pretty much ceased to exist for years before because a lot happens before a star goes nova. Our sun will make earth unsustainable for life in about 1 billion years but it'll still be around for about 3-4 billion more years before it basically goes nova.
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